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So do y'all think the Republican (and to an extent Democratic) politicians are actual Christians or is it just a tool to relate to the masses? Like, do you think they really believe in God and whatever?
There are probaly like one or two true believers. There are a few who believe in god and have chosen conciously to be on the devils side. and there are a bunch that just cynically use it as rhetoric.
i don't think "actual Christian" is a meaningful demarcation. There's no basis to claim one side or the the other of any schism was correct. various christians have wildly different ideaas of what they think god is, even within denominations.
most of them practice american civil religion which is syncretic merging of cultural background radiation jesus and founding fathers worship. A whole bunch of them believe god communicates with them, but that's on a spectrum from vibes to whatever the hell is wrong with michelle bachman.
I meant more like: are they believers or just atheists doing whatever it takes to be in power. Can't see Trump actually going to church or praying every night out of his own initiative.
trump seemed concerned about actually going to hell
Bit of A, bit of B. When it's such a useful tool for hegemony, even the "true believers" end up swept by that too. They mutually reinforce each other and form a "politician's Christianity."
As a collective whole? Con artists who don't believe a word they preach.
As specific individuals? Varies; some are true believers that genuinely think they're abiding by the will of God, some are frauds who just tell people what they want to hear, some really believe but are ignorant hypocrites who can't see it.
The parties as parties are charlatans but the individual members of those parties are understandably far more diverse.