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5, 10 or 15 percent? Card terminals are increasingly asking for tips.

You may have had to do this lately too: choosing what percentage tip you want to give on the card terminal when paying in a restaurant or bar. Or clicking 'no tip' after all.

The number of hospitality businesses doing this is growing, and we are also tipping more often when we have to choose. This is evident from figures shared by payment companies with the NOS. When giving such a tip, we most often choose 5 percent from the options of 5, 10, 15 percent, or a self-chosen amount.

Hospitality businesses using payment and software company Tebi can decide for themselves whether to display the menu. It turns out that at coffee shops where you order at a counter, the percentage of tippers skyrockets when they ask for a tip. Almost no one adds a tip by card if no request is displayed, but with a request, that figure is over 20 percent.

In upscale restaurants, customers often leave a tip by card anyway, even if not asked. With a tipping menu, even more people do so, according to the figures. Percentage of transactions with a tip

At surf school and beach bar The Shore in Scheveningen, they have been working with percentage tips for quite some time. During the pandemic, the business switched to card payments only. "Tips dropped drastically then," says co-owner Thomas Franse.

In 2021, The Shore got a POS system that had that tipping option, and it was enabled. "That was definitely the moment the tips went up again."

Franse has mixed feelings about asking for tips. "It is not the best customer experience. In the beginning, we received quite a lot of negative reactions alongside the positive ones. However, it is an important source of income for the staff." He also notices customers getting used to it now, because more and more hospitality businesses are doing it. A tip menu on a card reader

Payment company Adyen compiled data on the proportion of hospitality business owners who are customers of their establishments who use a custom tipping menu. For restaurants, this rose from 19 percent in the first half of 2025 to 22 percent in the first half of 2026. For bars and cafes, it rose from 46 to 53 percent.

"This indicates that this is increasingly becoming a standard part of modern payment processes in the hospitality industry," says Julien Marlier, Benelux Manager. On card terminals where the tipping function is active, 61 percent choose 'no tip'. Consequently, 39 percent do leave a tip, averaging 4.31 euros.

Tebi also has figures on the percentage we select when giving a tip. Most often, people choose 5 percent. "About a quarter enter their own, usually small, amount," says general manager Florian Brunsting. "High 'American' tip amounts are hardly ever seen." In the US, a tip of at least 20 percent is expected in restaurants. How much tip should we give?

The Irish pub Mick O'Connells in Utrecht also has card readers with tip requests. "It is sometimes quite surprising who does and doesn't give a tip," says manager James O'Halloran. "Young students, from whom you wouldn't expect a tip, might give 5 or 10 percent. Wealthier bank employees sometimes give nothing at all."

The tip is usually 5 percent, he notes as well. "On average, we receive about 3,500 to 4,000 euros in tips monthly. That is distributed entirely among employees, based on the number of working hours." On average, it amounts to about 2 euros per hour. Less personal

Restaurant and bar patrons react differently to tip requests. "I didn't give a tip," says Sophie, who ordered at the counter at a salad bar in Utrecht and had to choose. "I find it less personal. It's just: here, do you want to give a tip or not?"

"I like it because then I can choose for myself what, if anything, to give," says a visitor to The Shore in Scheveningen. He gave a 5 percent tip. "People work hard for it. So it's nice to give a little something extra." More often in Amsterdam

Whether entrepreneurs opt for a tip menu varies by region. For instance, in Amsterdam, over 30 percent of Tebi customers have enabled the feature, whereas in Nijmegen, for example, it is only 10 percent.

During a survey in Den Bosch, several hospitality businesses said they did not want to get involved. "I'm not really a fan of it," says Marc Bouman of Brasserij Breton. "I'm not going to push tips unnecessarily; people give it if they want to."

"If you show that choice, people might feel forced," says Angie Joosten of Café CinQ. "For us, it works just fine to leave it entirely up to each individual."

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[–] longwew@lemmy.ca 23 points 1 day ago (1 children)

hell no this needs to go away

[–] Salamanderwizard@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago

Honestly, even if we got rid of tipping all together, I'd probably still tip when I can. Even jobs like McDonald's, I'll slip a 2 or more if I can to person. Like the person taking out the trash or the cook. If I get a chance, without risking their job

Cause at the end of the day, I know that even sometimes, those $2 or $5 end up saving the day. Plenty of times, a tip has saved me from going hungry or missing rent.

I guess saying this, I've come to feel that tipping isn't a bad thing. It's a way to tell a worker that you appreciate them. What is a bad thing is when the government takes advantage of the kind nature of our fellow humans to hold down the workers.

Pay people livable wages, and allow folks to tip no matter the job if they want.

[–] Tiral@lemmy.world 10 points 1 day ago

As an American. No, just no.

I don't mind the idea of tipping of someone thag goes above and beyond what's expected. That being said fuck tipping by percent of the total bill. I refuse to pay someone more money simply because they work at a snobby restaurant. The waitress pulling a double at a diner gets more from me and my $10 bill.

[–] phutatorius@lemmy.zip 2 points 1 day ago

Kill it with fire. Never let that disease metastasize from the US.

[–] NocturnalMorning@lemmy.world 23 points 2 days ago (3 children)

American here: Fuck off, "American style" tipping needs to die.

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[–] roserose56@lemmy.zip 23 points 2 days ago

As a fucking European, I tip when I want to tip. The employer should pay it's employees!

[–] Jumi@lemmy.world 9 points 2 days ago

Whenever I see that shit here I tip nothing

[–] tacoplease@lemmy.world 4 points 1 day ago (1 children)

The tipping system is horrendous and punishes the food servers. People need to go back and understand why it started in the first place.

[–] Tollana1234567@lemmy.today 2 points 1 day ago (2 children)

its the guilt tripping and begging from the business that gets annoying.

[–] phutatorius@lemmy.zip 1 points 2 hours ago

Even more annoying is when the businesses steal the tips.

[–] tacoplease@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago

Totally agree.

[–] DiscoDickJones@lemmy.world 10 points 2 days ago (6 children)

And I always thought they were smart people. Oh well.

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[–] stumu415@lemmy.zip 42 points 2 days ago

We pay very good living wages in the Netherlands so there is absolutely no need to this American bullshit.

[–] ranzispa@mander.xyz 19 points 2 days ago

Young students, from whom you wouldn't expect a tip, might give 5 or 10 percent. Wealthier bank employees sometimes give nothing at all.

Because you give a tip if you got a good service, not according to your bank account.

That and probably you're getting the young people used to this bullshit, please don't.

[–] swordgeek@lemmy.ca 258 points 3 days ago (2 children)

Canadian here.

Stop it. Stop it stop it STOP IT!

Refuse tips everywhere. If a business gives you the 'option,' refuse. Refuse, explain, and stopp going there.

PENALIZE any place that sets up tip options. Hurt them. Drive them out of business.

Break the spine of tipping now. Before it's too late.

[–] Humanius@lemmy.world 74 points 3 days ago (20 children)

Tipping is a thing in the NL. But this 15% nonesense by default can go fuck itself.

Tipping is gratuity, to be awarded for excelent service. If they dare ask me for a tip, I'd consider that rude and they'll get nothing from me.

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[–] Azal@pawb.social 71 points 3 days ago (1 children)
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[–] GenLe@lemmy.ml 12 points 2 days ago (2 children)

This certainly also means these businesses are willing to under-pay their employees who do get tips.

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[–] Evotech@lemmy.world 5 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

Was very popular in Paris when we visted this year. But only at the tourist places. I assume they just rake in from tourists bot knowing any better.

No local shops asked for this

[–] phutatorius@lemmy.zip 1 points 2 hours ago

Same in Spain. They bilk the tourists, but the locals won't put up with it.

[–] EffortlessGrace@piefed.social 63 points 3 days ago (4 children)

As an American living in the Netherlands for 4 years now:

NO, YOU MOTHERFUCKERS. NO.

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[–] WhyJiffie@sh.itjust.works 14 points 2 days ago (1 children)

this shit is spreading in Hungary too, but it's not that new :(

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[–] resetbypeer@lemmy.world 74 points 3 days ago (2 children)

As a Dutch person. Fuck that shit

[–] modus@lemmy.world 48 points 3 days ago (1 children)

As an American, fuck that shit.

[–] ShotDonkey@lemmy.world 15 points 2 days ago

As a Dutch-American, fuckfuck thatthat shitshit.

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[–] StellarExtract@lemmy.zip 127 points 3 days ago (2 children)

As an American, please don't let this spread, our system is stupid and annoying

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[–] MrGeneric@lemmy.today 3 points 1 day ago

Just wait, the next step is making you watch an ad before you can click on the tip screen while a video game face frowns or smiles depending on how far you slide the tip bar

[–] Blackmist@feddit.uk 4 points 2 days ago

Well it can get stuffed.

[–] Spezi@feddit.org 25 points 2 days ago (3 children)

In Germany the card terminals at restaurants started this too, but usually the servers are so embarrassed about showing it that they hit the 0% option themselves before they hand it to the customer or they type in the tip you said manually by hand in the “Custom amount” option.

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[–] 4grams@awful.systems 39 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (1 children)

I used to be a good tipper. I still am for genuine service, but the default “tip every transaction” has pissed me off enough that unless you personally handled my food, or performed a service for me, I instantly stab 0.

I was a a baseball game the other weekend, they had a self service kiosk for bottles of soda, a glorified vending machine. It had a default 18% tip added to the transaction that I had to drill into a menu to zero out. Fucking bonkers, not a human in sight, just a couple of sensors and a credit card terminal.

Tip culture has gotten way out of control since Covid, I’m refusing to participate anymore.

[–] phutatorius@lemmy.zip 1 points 2 hours ago

Just another category of junk fees. Those are creeping in everywhere.

[–] forkDestroyer@infosec.pub 3 points 1 day ago

I went to the movies for the first time in a while. Grabbed some overpriced popcorn and before paying the screen asked me if I wanted to tip.

We never tipped the movie theater staff. It wasn't even an option when I went to the movies in the 90s - 10s. Wtaf?

[–] db_null@lemmy.dbzer0.com 48 points 3 days ago

"... it is an important source of income for the staff."

Source of income is their employment.

I don't mind leaving a tip for great service, but it's a few coins to round up and cash only. I never did and never will tip by card.

[–] M33@piefed.world 10 points 2 days ago

Sorry but no

[–] darkmogool@feddit.org 8 points 2 days ago

yeah… go fuck yourself with this assholery tipping shit…

[–] spaceracoon@lemmy.zip 16 points 2 days ago

This will be another incentive for employers to pay staff even less "you have tips anyways".

Sorry I will not be giving tips for a service I paid for as per menu. Tips should be reserved for whom went above and beyond not just for providing the service I paid for.

[–] Humanius@lemmy.world 56 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

Like hell it is.

Card terminals may be asking for tips, but if they do that they're getting 0% from me. Asking for a tip is rude and a guaranteed way not to get one.

I experienced it once at a place where I had to prepay for the drinks, so they dared to ask me for a tip before I even received service. The absolute guts of asking for a tip before even offering service...

Tips are gratuity awarded for excelent or exceptional service. Unlike America waiting staff actually earns a proper wage, so it's not like they need tips to get by.

[–] MrSulu@lemmy.ml 7 points 2 days ago

This isn't very good at all! Let's call bullshit

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