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[–] curiousaur@reddthat.com 1 points 2 minutes ago

This actually makes some sense, since I'm genuinely interested in 1.5TB of integrated ram and what you can do with it, but don't really want to shell out the 30k it will cost.

[–] THE_GR8_MIKE@lemmy.world 10 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

I am so happy I built a new computer at the end of 2024. It may realistically last me two decades at this rate. I got one decade out of the last build.

[–] HugeNerd@lemmy.ca 1 points 54 minutes ago

I maxed out my configuration at 64GB RAM and 2TB SSD around the same time.

[–] NGC2346@sh.itjust.works 31 points 8 hours ago (3 children)

The beginning of HaaS (Hardware as a service)

[it is very bad]

[–] cantankerous_cashew@lemmy.world 2 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

It’s already here unfortunately. For example, you can now lease a PlayStation 5

[–] DrSteveBrule@mander.xyz 1 points 54 minutes ago

We used to rent a PS2 from blockbuster back when it was the current gen lol

[–] jj4211@lemmy.world 4 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

Not the beginning, 'Device as a Service' has been the buzzword as of late, but basically has been a thing for decades. I remember twenty years ago scratching my head at why the company I worked at paid more to lease desktops for three years than it would have cost to just buy them outright, or even finance them.

[–] SocialMediaRefugee@lemmy.world 1 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

The amount we spend on cloud hosting I keep suggesting (and I think they are starting to listen) that having on-prem hardware makes financial sense again. We have the staff to run them already anyway.

[–] jj4211@lemmy.world 1 points 50 minutes ago

Heh, to some extent I think the hardware vendors have done this to themselves.

They try to balance "good TCO if you just buy it" but simultaneously say "but it sucks to own the equipment you need to pay us exorbitant services fees to make it easier to own".

Nothing unique to IT, certainly car manufacturers love to first sell you on how robust the car is and then try to scare you into thinking it'll turn to dust if you don't buy extended warranties...

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It ain’t perfect but it’s pretty good and gets better all the time:

https://asahilinux.org/fedora/

Get an “old” m1 and rock out. Fuck Apple.

[–] selokichtli@lemmy.ml 2 points 5 hours ago

I feel like it's been like this for a long time now.

[–] AlteE@programming.dev 7 points 8 hours ago

Thanks, but no.

[–] PorqueSan@lemmy.world 11 points 9 hours ago
[–] phoenixz@lemmy.ca 5 points 7 hours ago

Aaaand there we go, as predicted for the lady decade. You won't own anything and you'll like it. You will lease pur hardware and we will know everything about you.

Fuck all of this

[–] stumu415@lemmy.zip 17 points 10 hours ago

Enshittification

[–] PattyMcB@lemmy.world 7 points 8 hours ago

HAH, how 'bout no!

[–] 17jGuFCOn89iY@lemmy.world 26 points 12 hours ago* (last edited 12 hours ago) (1 children)

You’re still paying for the more expensive ram. It’s just baked into a higher monthly rental payment. Why pay more for ram one time when you could pay more for ram every month for the rest of your life?

[–] Jason2357@lemmy.ca 7 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

When a company says it has a "solution" for the high price, they means they have a "solution" for the big number on the sticker. Not that they actually care about affordability.

[–] adarza@lemmy.ca 1 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

when the $ numbers start getting big and scary, just extend the length some more to make it look 'cheaper'.. like 8 year car loans and 50 year mortgages.

[–] jj4211@lemmy.world 1 points 44 minutes ago

Yeah, had a car dealer try to say "the price doesn't even matter, only the monthly payment matters, right?"

The problem for those of us who know better: this reasoning works on most of the customers and it's more profitable to do that than cater to more savvy customers.

[–] roserose56@lemmy.zip 2 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

Watch programmers and artists pay for lease.

[–] tauisgod@lemmy.world 2 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

A lot will. My last company leased their hardware. It cost more in the long run but for reasons I never understood it's better having expenses paid out of opex versus capex.

[–] jj4211@lemmy.world 1 points 47 minutes ago

Yeah, I was in a room with a customer that said point blank "even if it costs us more in opex within a year than buying it as capex, we would rather rent the stuff as opex"

Some accounting bullshit makes them hate having anything that they must count as an "asset" that goes down in value over time. Better to burn the money as "expense" than to have to manage the value burning off over years as "depreciation".

[–] TankovayaDiviziya@lemmy.world 6 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

Any idea when the Chinese RAMs are going to flood enough of the market to lower the price?

[–] jj4211@lemmy.world 1 points 45 minutes ago

Given how long that would take, I'd guess that we will see OpenAI backing out of some of their purchasing commitments as a price pressure before then.

Sam Altman basically single handedly committed to buying almost half of the world's RAM capacity, and on other fronts OpenAI has already backing out of some of its more egregiously stupid business decisions. I'm sure the purchasing commitments are only a matter of time to come up on that chopping block.

[–] Snapz@lemmy.world 3 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

Wow! How lucky are we?!! This also happens to coincide with Apple raising chocolate rations from 10 to 8!!!

[–] adarza@lemmy.ca 2 points 5 hours ago

that's a lot of chocolate.

[–] Gsus4@mander.xyz 5 points 9 hours ago

MBAs solve yet another case, which other problem will they create and solve, but not really, next time?

[–] polle@feddit.org 8 points 10 hours ago

Kudos to them, if i cannot install my own software anymore and don't own the hardware, it could be leased as well. /s

[–] domswp@programming.dev 2 points 8 hours ago
[–] FukOui@lemmy.zip 6 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

What dystopian hell is this?!

You will own nothing and you will be happy.

[–] RememberTheApollo_@lemmy.world 13 points 13 hours ago

Just like investment real estate squatters buying up houses, driving up real estate costs, and then forcing you to rent.

Next, Apple keeps jacking up lease prices.

[–] Itdidnttrickledown@lemmy.world 5 points 10 hours ago

Mah computer subscription is a monthly payment I can't miss.

[–] MonkderVierte@lemmy.zip 14 points 14 hours ago

Wasn't this the goal from the start? With the inflated RAM prices, you not owning computing. Well, they'll surely find some idiots.

[–] spontaneoushumancombustion@lemmy.world 6 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

Sounds on par with the rest of the tech oligarchy. Imagine missing a payment. You're in a business meeting and a tiny RC tow truck wheels in to haul it away.

[–] Itdidnttrickledown@lemmy.world 4 points 10 hours ago

Nah they just lock the screen with a message about making a payment to embarrass you.

[–] NotASharkInAManSuit@lemmy.world 58 points 18 hours ago
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