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[–] AgentBigCactus@lemmy.zip 3 points 14 hours ago

What we need are changes to health and safety laws. It's VERY hard to donate food at times. All it takes is one asshole suing a store, or company or a person to spook off any food donations. If you don't follow all the rules on traceability, regulatory checks on dates and transport it in a certain way, you open yourself up to a lawsuit. It's legal suicide to most companies. Please look up legislation on food health and safety and talk to your local MP (or whatever the American version is).

I work in my mother in laws church food program and know how hard it is for places to actually donate food.

[–] forgetfulmeat@lemmy.world 9 points 23 hours ago* (last edited 23 hours ago)

Please look up if you have any food rescue programs in your area.

I only have so much time but I spend less than an hour to stop at Little Caesars once a week. I grab 15 lbs of pizza and take it to whoever is accepting the food (right now a sobriety home).

Theoretically, a hundred people doing exactly what I do would save 1,500 lbs of food a week. It adds up quickly.

If you have a blessing box in your area then check your own cupboards too. Look for non-perishables you know you won't eat or will expire before you do.

[–] HugeNerd@lemmy.ca 52 points 1 day ago (1 children)

We as a species have all the resources to create a leisure society. We choose not to.

[–] A_Random_Idiot@lemmy.world 20 points 1 day ago

because we must maintain an artificial scarcity or profits will suffer. Wont anyone think of the shareholders?!

heaviest /s

[–] jaemo@sh.itjust.works 6 points 1 day ago

Fuck you, America.

[–] Big_Boss_77@lemmy.world 28 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

I worked at McDonald's one summer in college... used to carry out the bags of mcchickens and shit to throw away after shift. It wasn't hard to toss the bag over the dumpster and out the back of the enclosure for later collection...if one was so inclined. McDonald's fed me that summer, and it wasn't the fucking pennies they were paying me doing it.

[–] DrSteveBrule@mander.xyz 15 points 1 day ago (1 children)

The third clip is from a Publix grocery store. I used to work in a Publix deli and I would fill up a shopping cart like that with food to be thrown away daily. That's just one location from one company. There is absolutely plenty of food for everyone on this planet.

[–] minkymunkey_7_7@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago

Yes, but won't somebody think about the poor Capitalists? All that hard working stolen labor and extortion they created with their own bare hands and you would allow hungry people to eat all that.... For free?!

[–] BeardededSquidward@lemmy.blahaj.zone 32 points 1 day ago (1 children)

The problem is that they also destroy any attempts at creating a pipeline that such food can go to say homeless shelters, shelters for abused people, homeless people, etc. They'd rather people starve to death to make their money than see people fed. That's why we cannot live with an executive class in charge of everything.

[–] ZombiFrancis@sh.itjust.works 18 points 1 day ago (1 children)

The manager at my local grocery store once almost broke his neck slipping on ice chasing a homeless man stealing a bundle of wood. This sort of deranged mentality runs deep and is selected for in the corporate structure.

[–] Marshezezz@lemmy.blahaj.zone 7 points 1 day ago

Too many people are so desperate for a gold star

[–] Tiger666@lemmy.ca 52 points 1 day ago (1 children)

The works of the roots of the vines, of the trees, must be destroyed to keep up the price, and this is the saddest, bitterest thing of all. Carloads of oranges dumped on the ground. The people came for miles to take the fruit, but this could not be. How would they buy oranges at twenty cents a dozen if they could drive out and pick them up? And men with hoses squirt kerosene on the oranges, and they are angry at the crime, angry at the people who have come to take the fruit. A million people hungry, needing the fruit- and kerosene sprayed over the golden mountains. And the smell of rot fills the country. Burn coffee for fuel in the ships. Burn corn to keep warm, it makes a hot fire. Dump potatoes in the rivers and place guards along the banks to keep the hungry people from fishing them out. Slaughter the pigs and bury them, and let the putrescence drip down into the earth.

There is a crime here that goes beyond denunciation. There is a sorrow here that weeping cannot symbolize. There is a failure here that topples all our success. The fertile earth, the straight tree rows, the sturdy trunks, and the ripe fruit. And children dying of pellagra must die because a profit cannot be taken from an orange. And coroners must fill in the certificate- died of malnutrition- because the food must rot, must be forced to rot. The people come with nets to fish for potatoes in the river, and the guards hold them back; they come in rattling cars to get the dumped oranges, but the kerosene is sprayed. And they stand still and watch the potatoes float by, listen to the screaming pigs being killed in a ditch and covered with quick-lime, watch the mountains of oranges slop down to a putrefying ooze; and in the eyes of the people there is the failure; and in the eyes of the hungry there is a growing wrath. In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage.

John Steinbeck, The Grapes of Wrath

[–] prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 6 points 1 day ago

In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage.

In all seriousness, I've never read this (or anything by Steinbeck for that matter), and this made me want to. My only worry is that the whole thing will be a massive downer.

I've also heard that East of Eden is very good.

[–] trolololol@lemmy.world 44 points 1 day ago (2 children)
  • In France supermarkets have to donate food about to expire, they can't throw it away
  • Eu is making a law that forbids companies to incinerate/ throw away clothes
[–] quick_snail@feddit.nl 7 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (2 children)

In the US, we have a law that prevents lawsuits to companies that donates expired food, protecting them from liability.

Loads of companies donate their food. Especially bakeries.

[–] trolololol@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago

Just shows that the culture is completely flipped in favour of corporations and throwing people against people.

[–] prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 5 points 1 day ago (3 children)

Yet you'll occasionally still hear store managers try to say shit like, "we can't give it away because we might get sued".

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[–] pdxfed@lemmy.world 76 points 1 day ago (3 children)

The works of the roots of the vines, of the trees, must be destroyed to keep up the price, and this is the saddest, bitterest thing of all. Carloads of oranges dumped on the ground. The people came for miles to take the fruit, but this could not be. How would they buy oranges at twenty cents a dozen if they could drive out and pick them up? And men with hoses squirt kerosene on the oranges, and they are angry at the crime, angry at the people who have come to take the fruit. A million people hungry, needing the fruit- and kerosene sprayed over the golden mountains. And the smell of rot fills the country. Burn coffee for fuel in the ships. Burn corn to keep warm, it makes a hot fire. Dump potatoes in the rivers and place guards along the banks to keep the hungry people from fishing them out. Slaughter the pigs and bury them, and let the putrescence drip down into the earth.

There is a crime here that goes beyond denunciation. There is a sorrow here that weeping cannot symbolize. There is a failure here that topples all our success. The fertile earth, the straight tree rows, the sturdy trunks, and the ripe fruit. And children dying of pellagra must die because a profit cannot be taken from an orange. And coroners must fill in the certificate- died of malnutrition- because the food must rot, must be forced to rot. The people come with nets to fish for potatoes in the river, and the guards hold them back; they come in rattling cars to get the dumped oranges, but the kerosene is sprayed. And they stand still and watch the potatoes float by, listen to the screaming pigs being killed in a ditch and covered with quick-lime, watch the mountains of oranges slop down to a putrefying ooze; and in the eyes of the people there is the failure; and in the eyes of the hungry there is a growing wrath. In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage.

[–] teslekova@sh.itjust.works 18 points 1 day ago

Oh shit. I actually need to read that. One of the ones school was correct to try and push on us, I see.

[–] nirodhaavidya@lemmy.world 11 points 1 day ago (1 children)

This reminds me of how I need to read Steinbeck, especially Grapes of Wrath

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[–] Darkassassin07@lemmy.ca 40 points 1 day ago (15 children)

Yup. Worked a 7-11 for a few years; anything not sold is written off and thrown out. If you're caught taking it home, or giving it away; immediate termination, with cause.

The reason I was given is 'conflict of interest'. The employees decide how much to make; if they're allowed to take it/give it away, they may choose to make extra to ensure they/their friends get freebies. Bullshit.

[–] Redditmodstouchgrass@lemmy.zip 2 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

Dunno about 7-11, but I got fed the same line at Kroger, and it's such bullshit. I tried cooking fried chicken to meet demand, and I kept getting told to make more, which would then be thrown away.

What made it worse was that sometimes the chicken would show up a day before expiry, so we'd cook it all at once and you guessed it, thrown away, instant fire bla blah blah.

Edit: Also got told we operated on super thin margins, gee I wonder why when you keep telling me to waste product.

[–] Darkassassin07@lemmy.ca 3 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Required to make enough that we dont run out, but giving away the waste you'd think was a murder with how upset they get. It's so stupid.

They're more concerned about keeping stocked shelves for that one guy buying hot food at 3am, than they are about throwing out perfectly good food.

Glad I don't work in food service anymore.

I finally just walked out when management threatened my job when I wanted to do the grab-n-go meats and cheeses instead of filling some mobile order thing for 8piece fried chicken that came in for like 6 or 7 in the morning. Like, seriously, you'd rather make 9 dollars now, than at least 300 (probably double that, those things are expensive and sell out super quick here, WHEN THEYRE DONE EARLY IN THE DAY) here in a little bit when all the workers and housewives come in looking for quick sandwich supplies? Any other day they'd have been whining that I was ten minutes late finishing that up.

[–] testaccount789@sh.itjust.works 16 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Also things supermarkets consider "damaged goods".
4-pack of coke, but 1 can is missing.
Cans "cannot be sold separately", therefore it's trash now.
???

[–] HerbGrower@slrpnk.net 8 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

In the UK I have seen quite a few shops will just heavily discount it in that case.

Aldi sells wonky carrots. Costs fuck all and you get a huge amount. Oh no the carrot has a slight bend in it. Buy them at £0.53 per kg. It shows that a lot of people really don't care about their veg looking pristine. The idea that produce must be perfect to sell is a lie.

[–] Redditmodstouchgrass@lemmy.zip 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Fucking veg eugenicists, lol.

[–] HerbGrower@slrpnk.net 1 points 18 hours ago

Its always the cheap veg I see sold out first. Just goes to show that at least out of Aldi customers, most people don't care about veg looking perfect if it is going to cost more.

[–] gibmiser@lemmy.world 14 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Then why is there always so much fucking waste

[–] Darkassassin07@lemmy.ca 17 points 1 day ago

Because their 'weekly forcast' software is garbage and the employees aren't paid enough to GAF.

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[–] green_link@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago

all that food is insured, and the companies would rather get a insurance claim and money back, and raise prices, than give it away. it's all about money. if they give it away they don't get their insurance money

[–] Alpha71@lemmy.world 17 points 1 day ago (14 children)

We have the means to end every form of inequality out there. We would just have to come together as world to make it happen. But no. We're basically monkeys with nukes.

Which is why, as a species, we deserve everything coming our way.

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[–] quick_snail@feddit.nl 9 points 1 day ago (1 children)

In the US, we have a law that prevents lawsuits to companies that donates expired food, protecting them from liability.

Loads of companies donate their food. Especially bakeries.

[–] SippyCup@lemmy.world 14 points 1 day ago (1 children)

While I'm sure many small privately owned companies are donating their old food, large organizations like national grocers and fast food chains have standing policies that prohibit franchisees from donating any food.

Donated food is free food. People who get free food are not paying customers. They'll say they're worried about a lawsuit, but what they're actually trying to accomplish is maintaining the absolute maximum number of paying customers.

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[–] 20cello@lemmy.world 28 points 1 day ago

Capitalists are ghouls

[–] BCsven@lemmy.ca 29 points 1 day ago (3 children)

Canada is pretty similar. So much dumped instead of priced to sell

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