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This design looks so cheap to me, it's just a bunch of random covers, there is no information about the movies presented in any way, the covers are way too big and take up an inordinate amount of space and there is nothing breaking up sections, design is just so fucking dumb now, fuck mobile
rant over π
UI's for movie streaming services are not designed to help you find something to watch. They are designed to keep you "engaged", which means in the platform and not realizing that the pool of actually interesting things is about as deep as a puddle. Everything about streaming sites' design is user hostile and this is a classic example of that.
Isn't Jellyfin the same design as all the streaming platform and they have nothing to gain for keeping you engaged?
Yeah but they don't have highly paid UX design teams, so they're probably just copying design choices on the basis that they're trying to offer people a similar experience they can own.
Also, it's FOSS so you can always make your own skin/theme.
Almost, but it has movie titles under the poster/cover and usually pulls the actual movie covers.
Once you click into it, it gives a shitton of detail about the movie.
Once you click into it, it gives a shitton of detail about the movie.
Is this not the case with netflix/hbo? Sorry i never actually used any streaming service before other than Jellyfin so i don't understand what is the issue here
Two things off the top of my head:
Jellyfin displays ratings from RT (and opencritic maybe?), while Netflix has stopped displaying their own user ratings years ago.
Jellyfin displays the full cast and crew. When you click an actor, director,... it shows you other media where they appear, even individual episodes. Netflix has none of that.
Jellyfin has like six different view types to pick from, including one that doesn't even show images. And almost all the others show the title always visible below the preview image.
I'm so here for this.
It's genuinely infuriating to see a hundred years of movie poster art evolution discarded. It's the first part of a movie's artistic statement you ever see, and it gets summarily tossed in the trash so that Netflix's internal overworked engagement metrics team can spend 2 minutes grabbing random shots of different stars in the film, slap single-color generic font text all over it, and target twelve versions to different demographics to try to get more clicks.
It's even worse when I tell this to someone and they're like, "I don't really notice."
Oh my goodness thank you I finally feel vindicated like no one around me ever mentions anything about it, I do need some more friends lol, but yeah as someone who does design and appreciates good design and knows what a hell creatives put ourselves through to go through the process of making something people love and then it all gets reduced to garbage like this
My local movie theater in the heart of downtown has taken down all the movie posters outside the entrance and replaced them with a single screen that only shows ads for overpriced popcorn "deals".
Before, anyone walking by knew which movies were currently playing; now, all they know is just how outrageously expensive the popcorn is.
I haven't been to that theater since.
You should tell them.
Yeah, I guess I should. I just can't quite understand how anyone could fail to realize how absurd it is for a movie theater to use its most prominent advertising space not for promoting its movie lineup, but for food offerings.
To me, this strongly suggests that this movie theaterβwhich is part of a large chainβnow sees its main product as food rather than movies.
I have absolutely no sympathy for that, and I can only applaud it when a company like that loses customers because of its own idiocy.
Movie theaters main products has always been food.
Movie theaters have never made money off the movies they show, they make their money off the food they sell. It has been that way for at least 50 years.
Web/UI design in general has sucked for at least 14 years now. Everything is spaced too far apart and text/images are too big. Icons are used for critical functionality instead of words. Pointless animations and gradients slow everything down for no reason.
The thing that drives me the craziest is when a long title or sentence or whatever is just truncated with ellipses, even when there is ENORMOUS blank white space around it that would easily allow the whole thing to be shown with word-wrapping. Youtube shorts is the most egregious example of this, and they recently managed to make it even worse. It used to be that you could open up the comments for a short and that would make the entire long title readable, but they "fixed" that so it stays ellipsized even then.
The app I use at work to clock in and out ellipsizes my own name halfway through my middle name, and it could be easily fixed by just stretching the control that displays the name all the way to each edge. I used to be a mobile app developer and I know exactly why this happens: the UI designer uses a bogus short name like "Bob Smith" on the original design document and the developer who implements it puts in a control just big enough for that. I used to encounter this kind of thing and I would fix it with common sense, and then the UI designer would get mad and insist that my fix be reverted, even though that resulted in something that couldn't display the information properly.
And make sure everything you mouseover trying to get a blurb or something instead just jumps around like a Jack Russell terrier trying to grab your attention. I fucking hate having to find a place to park my mouse so it isn't autoplaying some bullshit I have no interest in.
Or worse finding a space where something doesn't auto play but scroll does work (when on a computer.)
Everything about using the internet and its various βservicesβ has turned to absolute garbage in the last 15 years.
It's what happens when you let marketing dickheads be in charge of everything.
It's all about driving metrics now. If people need to click on/select a movie to see more about it then that adds numbers to page views and increases time spent in the app. They can also see who and how many do or don't watch a movie after clicking on it to further drive their algorithms.
Itβs part of the infuriating trend on removing all words from UIs. God forbid the kids learn how to read a movie title. Using modern apps means navigating a never ending stream of hieroglyphs. The βsaveβ, βloadβ, βnewβ, βshareβ buttons are long gone; replaced with an ever changing series of symbols.
What difference are you seeing that I'm not?
I think the main complaint is that your examples show detail about the movie, not just a close up of someone's face
For example jaws has a giant shark attacking a person. Compare that to a close up of Bane's face. You might not even realize it's a batman movie of you aren't familiar with it already.
Star wars poster shows space ships and laser sword.
Many movie posters are just the main characters now with head shots vs trying to tell a story.
I don't full agree with the op, just my interpretation of what I think they are complaining about
I thought it was about the website design as opposed to the posters. Like why dont you get a small infobox for every movie with name, runtime, age-rating, plotsummary... Instead its just the posters
I'm finding myself having to guide people through UIs that have random symbols instead of an obvious word that says what it does.
It's annoying and getting worse.
You can easily use a word button to point to a side out menu with words, all language localised, that will actually make sense to a user instead of causing a tech anxiety attack!
I shouldn't have to scout and translate a UI for someone. If there's one bright side to all the AI being pushed at users is that it's at least able to communicate with actual text, and usually wants to be user-friendly instead of hostile.
The future begins to look more and more like idiocracy everyday.
And then combined it with thumbnails that change all the time because of A/B testing, which makes things even harder to recognize at a glance.
I mean, if they could let you click on the picture and it "flips" over and then there's some info and a few stills from the movie... This was how Video Rental stores worked for years.
Click on a cover to get more info.
Honestly it feels a bit like browsing a shelf of books or DvD boxes or something. It certainly could have some improvements but I donβt think this is that bad.
The large cover design isn't even the worst bit, it's how hard it is to find concrete genre categories in a lot of these streaming apps. You'd have a bunch of overlapping categories like most popular whatever in whereever and so on, they quite literally hide the option to just go to movies -> genre -> list everything in some apps (Netflix was hard to find at some point).
Now I just pirate whatever old movies come to mind and stuff them in Jellyfin. Right now it's Minority Report. Up next... Hmm I downloaded man from U.N.C.L.E the other day, might watch that.
Yup. And when you click on that, it will probably start playing and not showing any information.
Yea it kinda goes to a page with a random crappy screenshot from the movie that doesn't really say anything, and a really bad synopsis lol. I dunno if they are like, going to lock away all the information soon or what
This along with the changes to de-emphasize things like watch lists or even "continue watching" is basically the providers seeing how much they can influence users to watch what the provider wants instead of trying to cater to the users. If they find that people rarely navigate away from whatever 'top 10' or 'for you' suggestions, well, that means they have a great deal of freedom to only provide what is convenient for them and still get most of their revenue.
Doesn't piss me off as much as media players that show you what happens in the next episode as it's loading
I need to search movies and stuff like a database, not algorithmically from the covers in a database. I need more detail than that.
Social media told me gradeschoolers can't read now. I guess they don't want all those nonsense symbols everywhere.
Unpopular opinion: I want as little information as possible before watching a movie. At the other end of the spectrum, we have trailers which basically spoil the whole film. The only information I want about a movie is whether it's interesting, which I will get from audience sentiment online, and the only information I really need is the title.
Any additional information is either irrelevant to the movie experience, or a spoiler. Yeah I'm a weird little freak, and I like low-information posters. It's better than posters which give away too much
I guess this should incentivize me to click them?
Well, it doesn't. It's just noise i ignore, because there's too much of it in the net anyway.
Even if this is to drive engagement by clicking on items to gauge interest and collect metrics, I still don't see how that's more important than simply counting views and making an interface that's simple and pleasurable to use. I guess maybe the lack of proper market competition would allow this? This would be enough for me to leave the platform. (I'm running Jellyfin anyway.)