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PS: The discussion on this post turned mainly into a (one-sided) debate about whether the content of my contributions passes the Lemmy ideological purity test. So dull, yet so predictable. To be clear: I stand by everything I've written on Lemmy. Efforts at shaming will fall flat, as will pompous denunciations and attempts at dunking based on virtual sleuthing. I'm far too secure in my convictions to be bothered by a brigade of insufferably self-righteous progressives trying to one-up each other in their efforts to root out dissidence. To the (quite numerous) others who offered interesting feedback and kind words, thanks.

Here are some reflections on my personal experience of federated social media.

A bit of background. In the 90-9-1 trichotomy, I am one of the 9%: an occasional active participant. As of 3 years ago I had been dabbling in social media since I was a teenager in the 90s, but never very deeply. Newsgroups and IRC; a bit of invisible blogging; various techie web forums; Twitter from 2008 (hardly any tweets); Facebook in the early 2010s (a post or two per week at the peak); then Reddit. As of 2023 I had been "on" Reddit for nearly a decade and not even written 100 comments. Then I decided on a whim to join Lemmy.

The good

Three years later I have written nearly 100 original posts and over 3000 comments! This is an order of magnitude more than I used social media in the previous 25 years. How to explain it?

A bunch of things. I liked the UX instantly, it's much better than Reddit. No ads, so no nagging feeling that you're bankrolling a corporation. A (slightly) higher level of conversation quality than Reddit.

Probably the single biggest explanation is just that it's quieter. On Reddit I always arrived too late to the party. It's hard to find the motivation to say something when a thread already has 800 comments. On Lemmy, I'd arrive 12 hours after the post and there were only 6 comments. If I take the time to compose my thoughts, somebody might actually see it! I get the paradox here (there are tons more eyes passively looking at Reddit), but the "quiet room" effect is real.

Highlights

Hands down the best community I've found here is (no surprise) a specialized one: !birding@lemmy.world. Lots of original content and genuine expertise, zero vitriol or toxicity. Perfect. In a similar vein, !pigeon@mander.xyz, where you can literally post pics of pigeons to an adoring audience.

I've also got some value out of !linux@lemmy.world and !privacy@programming.dev for one of those reasons: the ambient expertise. It's not really breaking news: Linux and FOSS and privacy are really the only subjects where the fediverse can go toe-to-toe with the corporates in terms of expertise. IMO that's already an achievement that should not be squandered!

Quite a few of my 96 posts are original content ("OG", ugh). A whole bunch are photos from my bike-touring escapades, which I posted somewhat arbitrarily to !bicycle_touring@lemmy.world , !bicycling@lemmy.world, and !solarpunktravel@slrpnk.net. I rationalize this as an alternative to blogging: instead of hosting your own invisible vanity website, you can write what you have to say in a place where you have less control but where people may actually read it. It's the logic of social media, basically, but minus the ads and opaque algos and shareholders. As expected, my holiday photos were not viral sensations, but they did attract some love and a few nice comments. Success!

The less good

My experience on Lemmy has taught me something that I knew in theory but (somehow) not quite in practice: Socializing via text on a screen is quite hard to pull off successfully. The lack of physical accountability, the inherent difficulty of text communication (avoiding ambiguity without the help of a face or body language), all this tends to make people into worse versions of themselves. Me included to some extent, I'm sure.

And then there's the echo-chamber problem. It turns out that when people have an option to avoid dealing with ideas they disagree with (even slightly), very many of them choose that option. IMO this is a major (perhaps fatal) problem with social media. The fediverse is not magically immune from it.

Lowlights

The first - and definitely worst - experience I've had was 2 years ago when I got banned from !europe@feddit.org for "racism and gaslighting" on the basis of, well, pretty much nothing except the moderator's paranoia. Shut out of the single community that had most drawn me to Lemmy, I tried !europe@lemmy.dbzer0.com and in short order had a similar experience. I am a European liberal who votes green, and a moderate on social questions, although admittedly I do enjoy debate. To be shut down so brutally for daring to question progressive doxas in the politest terms - for me this was quite a shocking confirmation of the intolerance of a certain section of the (mainly US) left.

On !degrowth@slrpnk.net I got a virtual slap on the wrist for posting an article offering constructive criticism of degrowth. I'm basically a degrowther myself but I believe it's important to stress-test one's ideas (cf. J S Mill). The moderators politely disagreed. Fair enough. I deleted my post and unsubscribed.

The problem on !china@sopuli.xyz, meanwhile was (is) slightly different. It's that the community is swamped by a single hyperactive member who posts relentlessly on exactly the same themes with the same POV, and - the echo chamber, again - responds badly to any pushback. I contacted the moderator in private and received a virtual shrug.

So I decided to ditch all politics and stick to photos and niche subjects. But even here it has not been plain sailing. A (slightly whiny) post I wrote a few months ago about the difficulty of installing Linux on cheap hardware (a pretty niche subject!) received an avalanche of mockery and insults that really took me aback. And then I really stirred up a hornets' nest quite recently in this very community when I proposed a feature which would hugely improve my experience of Lemmy without affecting anyone else. Can't link to that because it got (very belatedly) deleted, ostensibly because offtopic but in reality because the proposal was unpopular. In fact this was my last post on Lemmy to date. Probably not a coincidence.

Conclusions

For me personally, the jury's still out. I'm pretty ambivalent about social media in general. Since The Atlantic introduced a discussion space a few months ago, I admit that I've transferred some of my energy there. And yes, it's been a better experience. But the reason is no indictment of Lemmy: It's that The Atlantic has a paywall, which essentially means I'm talking only to privileged people like myself there. I enjoy Hacker News even more, but that's because it's super specialized (politics is mostly banned), and professionally moderated, and also (attention: wild POV!) because it's full of engineers and other spectrumy types who take a Spock-like approach to communication. The problems I've had on Lemmy are problems of all generalist social media, not specifically of the fediverse.

In my case what remains are the figures. Despite everything, I have contributed more, and more personally, on Lemmy than I ever did on the R-site or anywhere else. That has to count for something. Corporate social media is a manipulative money-driven spyware-fueled nightmare. The federated decentralized type is obviously, plainly, better. That's why it has to succeed.

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[–] ParadoxConstant@thelemmy.club 4 points 15 hours ago* (last edited 15 hours ago)

So I decided to ditch all politics and stick to photos and niche subjects

Best plan! There's a huge mob here that loves to fight and argue. I remember one comment to my other username said something to the tune of "...and I won't back down until my revenge thirst is quenched!" or something dramatic like that. Some just enjoy the fight.

Once I deleted my old account, then started this one, and banned all the trolls and politics, smooth sailing.

But I'd never recommend Lemmy to my real life friends. Way too many keyboard warriors here calling or cheering violence, thinking the US is gonna have a violent revolution. lol

If you ignore the politics, it's cool being on an platform where you can instance-hop if you don't like how your current one is being run.

[–] Bad@jlai.lu 7 points 23 hours ago* (last edited 23 hours ago) (1 children)

Just so yall know who some of you are agreeing with, this person managed to get permanently booted off the !france@jlai.lu community which is very VERY tolerant of differing opinions compared to the average fediverse community. I remember them, they kept defending racist news outlets for no good reason and using far right talking points and dogwhistles (while claiming to be a leftist), until the mods got tired of their constant denial.

Modlog (and this post's comment section) shows some genocide denial too, no shit they don't feel welcome in some communities…

One of the points of moving to Lemmy, for me at least, was to get away from people like them.

[–] goferking0@lemmy.sdf.org 3 points 22 hours ago

This entire post is users either pointing it out and op getting upset about it or those like op praises op for defending the indefensible

[–] LaLuzDelSol@lemmy.world 2 points 22 hours ago

Whenever I see the leftist/liberal infighting and purity tests, like the ones in your comments, im always reminded of a quote from the Mars trilogy by Kim Stanley:

"The revolution turns against itself, because its the only thing its strong enough to beat. You can't get any group of more than four people without at least one fucking idiot."

Thanks for your contributions to an open internet. Birding is one of the better communities on lemmy (im a fan of the_pack myself, because I ride a motorcycle and im uncultured i guess :) )

It look at lot of community blocking and leftist super-user blocking to make Lemmy palatable. And even then, you still end up with like the "football" community and all the top posts are about Palestine, Israel, Donald Trump, America bad, like jeez people can you turn it off for five seconds and talk about soccer. Its a bit like the Fox News comment section where you'll have some innocuous article and half the comments are about Crooked Hillary. But there's some good stuff on Lemmy you just have to work for it.

[–] Dogyote@slrpnk.net 12 points 1 day ago (2 children)

I think the tribalism, purity testing, and mod power tripping is far worse here than reddit. I was banned from memes.ml two days ago for pointing out it's in bad taste to celebrate the deaths of American soliders, and I totally don't support at all what Americans are doing in Iran or Palestine. After a couple back and forths I was banned for spam. I was responding to comments, explaining my position, not spamming. Then to top it off, I was banned from privacy.ml yesterday. I saw a user I was arguing with the previous day using an argument I taught them. I literally explained something to them in a DM, and they were using it correctly against someone else, and I was again banned for "spam." A single silly "I'm proud of you" comment. Granted it was obvious that they clearly didn't like me but still, you can't get caught doing that and not expect me to say something. Very immature.

What I find funny about it all is they're banning someone who's on their team. I'm on board with most of the stereotypical .ml ideology (I don't think we'd get along OP), but some users, and especially those with power, have no tolerance for any dissent. I don't even think I was dissenting, just saying the evil facist bootlicking troops probably aren't as evil as they want them to be, so don't cheer when they die. Is that really too much for some people?

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[–] lastlybutfirstly@lemmy.world 5 points 1 day ago

Socializing via text on a screen is quite hard to pull off successfully.

People for millennia have been socializing via text on paper and found it extremely easy. Text on a screen is hardly that much different. I think the modern problems society has communicating via text has more to do with the wetware than the software. I imagine a moral panic also exploded 5000 years ago when writing letters became a thing.

[–] BlackLaZoR@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago

I got banned from !europe@feddit.org for “racism and gaslighting”

My account on Fedia got permabanned. Don't even know why. No explanation given, just "account banned" when trying to login XD. I suspect I might've gotten caught in fight against bots spamming, but there's no way to appeal.

[–] Axolotl_cpp@feddit.it 24 points 2 days ago (13 children)

tried !europe@lemmy.dbzer0.com and in short order had a similar experience.

looks in the mod log

reason: blatantly denying genocide

Yep i guess i can skip this section of the post

[–] rumba@lemmy.zip 21 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (2 children)

blatantly denying genocide

I do wish the removed content was always available from the modlog. We're not immune to a mod saying something that someone said something that they didn't strictly say. While we're better about keeping things open, i thing we're better protected with keeping it all available.

[–] kuiskaaja@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 day ago* (last edited 23 hours ago) (1 children)

that and i wish you couldnt get banned from a sublemmy you've never interacted with.

just check my modlog, i've never broken any rules anywhere, yet i have the label of a "tankie bootlicker" forever stuck to my account from getting banned from a sublemmy i've never interacted with, probably cus the people running it are more paranoid than even stalin was

edit: it's not even a sublemmy apparently lol. it's a... whatever u call communities in piefed

[–] rumba@lemmy.zip 2 points 21 hours ago (1 children)

If you were blocked on a community because they were hostile modded, you probably don't want to be there anyway.

[–] kuiskaaja@lemmy.ml 2 points 21 hours ago

yeah, it's definitely a community i very much don't care for.

it just sucks having that in my mod log, u know

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[–] goferking0@lemmy.sdf.org 10 points 1 day ago

They're even continuing it in the thread

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[–] LovableSidekick@lemmy.world 12 points 1 day ago (4 children)

I agree 100% with everything you're saying. Expectation of conformity and zero-tolerance of nonconformity form a sort of tyranny that always makes any discussion of locally accepted gospel impossible. Many social media communities seem founded on absolutist beliefs that just aren't up for discussion at all. Sometimes even asking informational questions out of genuine curiosity is treated as shilling or trolling - I suppose in those communities asking questions about doctrine any right-thinker should already know and accept is automatically suspect.

As a Hacker News-type person I never thought of my communication as Spock-like, but that's a great term!

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[–] MissingInteger@lemmy.zip 29 points 2 days ago (10 children)

A feature I like about Lemmy is that the mod-log is public and that you can go from comments in the mod-log directly to the related discussions.

People should really check out OP's mod-log and make up their own minds.
Especially about the things he wrote about in his "Lowlights" section.

[–] GoatSynagogue@lemmy.world 11 points 2 days ago

The mod logs are public in a sense, but also completely useless against the power hungry mods since they can ban and hide all the details of post/comment removals, and hide behind the anonymous mod name.

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[–] IndustryStandard@lemmy.world 10 points 1 day ago (4 children)

Tldr OP is a racist Zionist European and therefore has to stick to birding

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[–] Loco_Mex@sh.itjust.works 111 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (57 children)

So, you're a debate bro who argues Syrian refugees increase crime and terrorism, trans women in sports and children accessing trans healthcare are legitimate issues, and support Israel and claim there isn't a genocide.

You say shit like "So many hypersensitive thin-skinned vacuum-cleaner owners! Perhaps they're projecting their insecurities because deep down they know I'm right." and argue intolerance that people don't support your terrible viewpoints?

You're peak fucking reddit mate.

To me the good of the Fediverse is that it highlights dishonest people like yourself.

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