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[–] Chivera@lemmy.world 5 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

GG my fellow PC enthusiasts

[–] mack@lemmy.sdf.org 3 points 13 hours ago

it's been like that for the past 6 years or so? I remember falling back to a laptop because of video card spike because mining, then I said right I postpone another year for the build and the chip shortage came along. Then SSD/hard drive Then RAM Next thing they're pulling the rug off is going to be PSU and chassis and we're cooked

[–] Mangoholic@lemmy.ml 4 points 17 hours ago

Don't worry all orders will be canceled when the bubble pops.

[–] Smoogs@lemmy.world 1 points 14 hours ago

but how.....? just make more. its not even 2027 yet. ffs. this feels like a scam.

[–] kalkulat@lemmy.world 4 points 1 day ago (1 children)

No problem. So much enshittification on the web these days, don't need so much RAM, I might sell some.

[–] LodeMike@lemmy.today 1 points 1 hour ago

Nah you should have a backup.

[–] Macaroni_ninja@lemmy.world 72 points 1 day ago (3 children)
[–] lemmyvore@feddit.nl 5 points 1 day ago

Yeah but as long as the manufacturers keep selling all their production for real money, everybody else is screwed and prices are going up.

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[–] CeeBee_Eh@lemmy.world 32 points 1 day ago

Dodge must be pretty happy.

[–] OozingPositron@feddit.cl 17 points 1 day ago (2 children)

At least monitors are cheap now.

At least till they decide the AIs all need faces 🤣

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[–] motruck@lemmy.zip 55 points 1 day ago (3 children)

Good. Time for software to be optimized again.

[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 14 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Half the joke of the AI bubble is how American tech firms prioritized brute force over efficient engineering.

[–] kuiskaaja@lemmy.ml 42 points 1 day ago (2 children)

how will the vibe coders survive this?

please, will somebody please think about the feelings of the poor vibe coders :(

[–] boonhet@sopuli.xyz 17 points 1 day ago (6 children)

Vibe coders will ask the AI to write everything in Rust, memory usage will be reasonably low

The people writing everything in Electron are gonna have a fun time with their users though.

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[–] Agent641@lemmy.world 10 points 1 day ago

Truth.

I am astounded that games like Crash Bandicoot, Tomb Raider and Abe's Oddysee with their massive sprawling worlds were crammed into such relatively tiny file sizes.

Necessity gets results

[–] Simulation6@sopuli.xyz 35 points 1 day ago (5 children)

Things don't add up. I see articles about computer parts becoming unavailable along with articles about data center plans being cancelled or not getting built. I assume the data centers ARE getting built and those second articles are lies to calm people down.

[–] poopkins@lemmy.world 65 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

OpenAI has a deal with Samsung and SK Hynix to purchase 900,000 DRAM wafers per month, or 40% of global DRAM output. These are just uncut wafers, accumulating in warehouses that serve two purposes:

  • Prepares them for the distribution to data centers,
  • Manipulates the supply chain to squeeze their competitors, who are left with slim pickings.

You and I are the victims of this until the bubble finally pops and the deal falls through.

[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 8 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

You and I are the victims

We're way downstream. The "victims" are all the SaaS and smaller market cap firms that need business compute for accounting and commerce.

Case in point, I got a request for a new server delayed three months because we blew through our Q1 budget for new hardware faster than expected.

That's not really hurting me, personally. But it means our server teams need to do more with less even as the business expands.

[–] Funkt4st1c@lemmy.world 6 points 1 day ago

Local small businesses are being priced out of self hosted server options since ~October (Source: MSP)

[–] SpaceCowboy@lemmy.ca 20 points 1 day ago (6 children)

It's because it's a Ponzi scheme. Huge amounts of investment dollars are being dumped into AI and anything related to AI. If you build any kind of chips that are used in AI datacenters, you suddenly have a bunch of money invested in your company. What do you do with it? You make a deal with OpenAI (or one of the other ones) that you'll invest that money into them if they agree to buy a bunch of chips from you. Now you have revenue on books and are showing a reasonable return on that investment.

If you were a chip manufacturer and actually believed that there was a big future in AI, you'd be using those investment dollars to build some more chip fabs. And some of these companies are doing that. But overall, moving money to another company so they will order chips for datacenters that aren't built yet (and may never be built) is just bubble ponzi shenanigans.

Computer hardware depreciates in value very quickly. You don't buy hardware today so you can install that hardware in a datacenter that won't be online for another year.

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[–] Gork@sopuli.xyz 159 points 2 days ago (11 children)

Looks like I'm gonna keep on rocking my pre-Covid era computer without an upgrade for a few more years.

[–] brem@lemmy.world 40 points 2 days ago (3 children)

Keep it as long as possible, the new shit suuuucks, is built to break & riddled with adware.

Back in my day ;) we had to worry about keeping up with the newest tech because you needed it for the best games or whatever.

These days, my desktop from 2014 can run all of the new games that I want to play (yes, even the demanding ones) It has 32 gigs ram and a 1660 Ti. That's really all I need, especially since most of the games I enjoy AREN'T new.

[–] tanisnikana@lemmy.world 49 points 2 days ago (21 children)

How is adware an issue? I haven’t had any of that with my Mint machine.

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[–] napkin2020@sh.itjust.works 81 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Sold out with pinky promises, not with actual money, no.

[–] A_Random_Idiot@lemmy.world 50 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (4 children)

its nvidia and AI creating a bubble on the belief they'll be able to get profit and get out before it pops.

But all it is.. is imaginary money going around in circles. nvidia invests a trillion in AI, AI buys a trillion dollars of nvidia videocards from some nebulous point in the future where they arent made yet, nvidia invests that trillion back into AI, AI uses it to buy ridiculous amounts of ram that wont be made for years, RAM invests it back into AI, and on and on they go, generating imaginary money and value, by buying imaginary things.

under a sane government this would be investigated as raw stock manipulation and fraud

I really hope when this bubble pops nvidia is destroyed in the process along with the AI companies.

It's the same accounting trick as enron, but intercompany instead of internal.

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[–] PillowD@lemmy.world 6 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Replace some of the labor you would use to pay for RAM and put it into learning a lighter weight operating system.

[–] AstralPath@lemmy.ca 2 points 12 hours ago

Most roundabout "install Linux" I've seen yet.

[–] Dookieman12@piefed.social 68 points 2 days ago (10 children)

My prediction:

  1. Investors continue to fuel demand, choking supply
  2. Plans to monetize LLMs don't pan out
  3. Eventually, lenders call their margins
  4. Investors see the called margins and get spooked; demand fizzles
  5. AI companies desperately try to liquidate their positions. Seeing the price of components, there's a rush to sell while prices are high.
  6. PC components flood the market
  7. Record high supply, record low prices
  8. PC gaming golden age
[–] OwOarchist@pawb.social 53 points 2 days ago (3 children)

PC components flood the market

*Server-grade purpose built AI components flood the market

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[–] brucethemoose@lemmy.world 67 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (2 children)

They aren’t PC components. They’re server GPUs.

They don’t even have ROPs anymore. There was a time when the Nvidia P100/A100 could technically game, but that’s generations ago.


FYI, during the crypto busts, Nvidia bought back GPUs and basically incinerated them to keep demand for new stuff up.

…I’m pretty sure that’s what they will do again.

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[–] frongt@lemmy.zip 48 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Just like how GPUs became cheap and plentiful after mining crypto became passé, right?

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[–] Wildmimic@anarchist.nexus 14 points 1 day ago (9 children)

HBM and Vera Rubin are not useful for PC Gaming, at least not for current architectures. Main issue is that DDR5 production simply got cut to make more HBM. But there will be a huge amount of LPDDR, NVME / SSD drives and refurbished Hard Drives available, and hardware for running inference at home for pretty powerful models will become cheap as fuck, liberating us all from the hyperscalers; the open weights models from china are available for everyone.

At least i pray it will be this way.

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[–] CompactFlax@discuss.tchncs.de 80 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (3 children)

To build chips that are used as collateral for datacentres that have yet to be built, so the chips can’t be used, and they’ll just age out of usefulness.

[–] givesomefucks@lemmy.world 33 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (13 children)

and they’ll just age out of usefulness.

Nah, we'll stall on this generation. Even if a new one is released, very few will pay the extra when games would alreadyhave to start becoming RAM optimized again. Even Windows just dropped their 32GB recommendation.

Without the recommendation being met, people weren't buying windows PCs, so lower the requirement and people will buy more computers and more copies of windows. Which means they always could have just optimized better if they felt pressure.

Games will 100% do the same.

Which could be a huge thing for rational companies right now.

The big hurdle to domestic production is you'll spend billions and by the time it's built it's "last gen".

Instead of useless data centers, we could be building up domestic chip production, confident it will still produce top of the line chips when it goes live.

A literal golden opportunity, more so if China goes after Taiwan finally, you'd be the only international supplier.

As far as I know, no country is doing it tho.

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[–] TootSweet@lemmy.world 41 points 2 days ago (1 children)
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[–] Mihies@programming.dev 18 points 1 day ago (2 children)
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