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[–] EggInDisguise@lemmy.blahaj.zone 12 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

In a better world, all of these technologies that get stolen by various corpo espionage and reverse engineering teams would be freely shared with the world so everyone can benefit from them, and people not in the dev teams might have improvements they can suggest.

But instead we have a bunch of rich adult children who would rather take the ball and go home because they don't think they've recieved enough praise for bringing it, and wanting to charge everyone just to look at it.

It's not a great metaphor, but honestly dealing with companies and governments feels a lot like dealing with children you aren't allowed to discipline or even talk sternly to because their parents have forbidden you from interfering.

[–] ozymandias117@lemmy.world 6 points 45 minutes ago (1 children)

Cambridge University found that the steam engine was held back for ~40 years because of bad patents

https://archive.org/details/againstintellect0000bold

[–] ladicius@lemmy.world 1 points 3 minutes ago

You mean 40 years of delay for the destruction of our biosphere?

It's call that a win.

Good for them. Fuck samsung

[–] pastermil@sh.itjust.works 7 points 2 hours ago
[–] wedge@multiverse.soulism.net 21 points 4 hours ago

Guessing they won’t get much in the way of public sympathy given they’re bending consumers over the barrel. Play stupid games, win stupid prizes.

[–] JensSpahnpasta@feddit.org 100 points 6 hours ago (3 children)

When companies are not able to produce enough to satisfy demand and are actively stopping selling to certain sectors and harming them, they should lose their patents. RAM companies are actively harming all of us by selling their products to the AI companies and leaving us all without RAM, so we should encourage alternatives.

[–] ryper@lemmy.ca 7 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

OK, but the leak in the article seems to have been in 2016 when conditions were very different.

[–] Alcoholicorn@mander.xyz 45 points 6 hours ago (5 children)

Sure for RAM but holy shit why is not done for medicine?

[–] towerful@programming.dev 2 points 1 hour ago

It is. It's called Compulsory Licensing.

There is also an FDA Shortage list (most countries have a similar list).
A drug on that list gives the government additional powers to allow companies to work around the parents.

I think this is why there has been so many "off-brand" weight loss drugs recently. Novo Nordisk had supply chain issues with semaglutide, triggering governments to allow other manufacturers

[–] Kissaki@feddit.org 5 points 3 hours ago

India did it.

[–] sudo@programming.dev 13 points 5 hours ago

The Gates Foundation had strong objections to releasing the covid-19 patents. I'm sure they had some sort of rationale that wasn't "this would set a bad precedent for M$ patents.

[–] luthis@lemmy.nz 27 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

Because that would be something Jesus would approve of and we can't allow that

[–] WanderingThoughts@europe.pub 8 points 5 hours ago

Supply Side Jesus would approve.

[–] luthis@lemmy.nz 15 points 6 hours ago (2 children)

So patents are stopping the whole market competition thing, like what how capitalism is supposed to work and all that.

[–] amju_wolf@pawb.social 14 points 5 hours ago (2 children)

There should be a ceiling with patents, where if you make 10x back of what it cost your r&d (or whatever 5x of your yearly revenue), the patent should just be considered expired no matter how much time passed.

It should never be an infinite source of money.

[–] atomicbocks@sh.itjust.works 2 points 49 minutes ago* (last edited 43 minutes ago)

Patents in the US only last 20 years on stuff like this, the problem is that lawyers are crafty. So they will patent the formula and then 20 years later the delivery method or something like that. Thus preventing generics for longer than they should be able to.

[–] frongt@lemmy.zip 3 points 1 hour ago

Seems like a good idea, but would probably just result in Hollywood accounting so that they never actually make any profit on paper.

[–] RejZoR@lemmy.ml 9 points 6 hours ago

Only way how capitalism works is that the rich are just becoming the richer by exploiting the poor(er).

[–] mannycalavera@feddit.uk 94 points 7 hours ago

US frontier AI companies steal petabytes of copyrighted material.

Oh shucks 😂

[–] Alcoholicorn@mander.xyz 55 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

Oh no! RAM prices might go down! Won't somebody think of the poor shareholders?

[–] WhatAmLemmy@lemmy.world 9 points 4 hours ago

We need to stop them from stealing 1 corporations IP, so tech corporations can continue making monopoly money off the entire human species stolen IP!

[–] maybe_kay@lemmy.world 33 points 6 hours ago

he he nice, fuck the ram cartel

[–] shortwavesurfer@lemmy.zip 19 points 6 hours ago* (last edited 6 hours ago) (2 children)

Proving all this in court could give Samsung a powerful weapon moving forward. Legal experts believe the company might take sworn statements straight to the US International Trade Commission, a body with the authority to block foreign products from entering the country entirely.

Which does not help because not every country will ban them and The other manufacturers will then have less demand and therefore have to reduce their prices in order to continue selling the same amount

Edit: Doing so may slow the rate of the price decline in the US, but it will not stop it.

[–] core@leminal.space 20 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

Lol The US will block Chinese RAM from being sold in the US. I'm sure China is super scared.

[–] shortwavesurfer@lemmy.zip 6 points 5 hours ago

Oh, I'm just certain they are absolutely frightened to death. /s

[–] RobotToaster@mander.xyz 4 points 5 hours ago

If only there was some kind of court of world trade, that someone hadn't blocked from functioning https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Appellate_Body

[–] Xenny@lemmy.world 21 points 6 hours ago

Oh nooooo China will have to.....wait what will they have to do?

[–] MonkderVierte@lemmy.zip 10 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

But if China proves that US did industry spionage, what happens then?

[–] funkajunk@lemmy.world 6 points 4 hours ago (1 children)
[–] MonkderVierte@lemmy.zip 2 points 4 hours ago
[–] shortwavesurfer@lemmy.zip 11 points 6 hours ago

Oh no, I'm so terribly upset. /s