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[–] HerbGrower@slrpnk.net 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

What if we were to form CANZUK?

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[–] tal@lemmy.today 3 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (3 children)

“The red states, we’re going to hit hard,” said Ford.

I mean, you can do it, and if the goal is to expend Canadian economic resources to get catharsis, or to score political points with fed-up Canadian voters, okay, but the deep red states aren't going to turn blue, and what matters to the Republican Party is going to generally be control of political entities. Trump hasn't generally adopted policies that are particularly fantastic for a lot of his rural, red-state supporters anyway.

The states that matter politically in terms of control of the federal Executive Branch (and the federal Senate) are purple. That's where the US political parties stick their resources when they fight with each other, and if the aim is to alter US political outcomes via economic pressure---assuming that that is viable---that's where pressure would have the largest effect.

For the House, sub-state-level electoral districts matter, and purple districts would matter, but the Democratic Party is likely to get control of the House in the upcoming midterms, in any event.

Affecting state legislature control, one would look for purple state-level districts. That would have limited direct effect on US foreign policy, though. It could have subtle, long-term effects, in that control of states can affect state-level policies that affect the federal House, gerrymandering of federal districts for the House, stuff like that. The impact is pretty indirect, though.

[–] CanadaPlus@lemmy.sdf.org 4 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

That was Ford. He doesn't actually decide any of it, except, I guess, liquor sales in his province of Ontario. It may very well be campaigning on his part.

The actual strategy, per the federal minister, is to try and offset the lost business for industries effected by removing competing American imports, and to maintain the effort until Trump's term ends (and further if necessary).

Targeting red states was the what we did last time, when it was less serious, and pressure from whatever donor or congressmen really mattered. Don't worry, we watch the magic wall on CNN as well.

[–] potter2010@lemmy.ca 4 points 1 day ago

He does have a bit more wiggle room than buying or not buying liquor. He can assert pressure through some of the manufacturing in Ontario and energy exports. Nothing equivalent to what can happen at the federal level, but more than not buying liquor

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[–] humanspiral@lemmy.ca 1 points 1 day ago

Should only be part of strategy. Should give strong investment/production ultimatums to specific large US companies that sell to Canadians. Failure to comply with ultimatums results in much better value to Canadians from Chinese alternatives.

[–] trijste@lemmy.ca -3 points 1 day ago (2 children)
[–] mrgoosmoos@lemmy.ca 6 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Doug Ford

as shitty as the guy is, at least he's standing up to Trump

I just hope Ontarians don't forget how he has and continues to fuck them over

[–] SaveTheTuaHawk@lemmy.ca -1 points 23 hours ago

at least he’s standing up to Trump

He's doing nothing but blowing air.

[–] Sharkticon@lemmy.zip 7 points 1 day ago

According to the article it was Doug Ford.

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