Now that Debian is embracing AI anyone have any anti-AI distro recommendations? : linux

[–] ikidd@lemmy.dbzer0.com -2 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

More performative bullshit. Debian will get along just fine, maybe with fewer bugs if the LKML and Greg KH is to be believed.

Downvote away, as you haul out your phones to ask ChatJippity where to go for dinner tonight.

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[–] Skullgrid@lemmy.world -2 points 2 months ago (10 children)

some form of BSD, because the entirety of the linux kernel is about to have the same attitude :

https://www.phoronix.com/news/Linux-Is-Not-Anti-AI

Torvalds wrote on the mailing list:

"[In response to a comment: It seems like [1] expresses a very anti-LLM position in general"]

Yes.

And no, that's not the position of the Linux kernel.

I realize that some people really dislike AI, but this is an area where I'm willing to absolutely put my foot down as the top-level maintainer.

Linux is not one of those anti-AI projects, and if somebody has issues with that, they can do the open-source thing and fork it.

Or just walk away.

AI is a tool, just like other tools we use. And it's clearly a useful one.

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[–] Sgn@programming.dev -2 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

Linus himself said the linux project is not anti AI and if you dont want AI in Linux, fork it.

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[–] thingsiplay@lemmy.ml -3 points 2 months ago

Debain

[–] dream_weasel@sh.itjust.works -5 points 2 months ago

I can recommend "outside".

Been working pretty well this year so far.

[+] Wakko@hell.cloud -6 points 2 months ago (3 children)

You should stop using Linux altogether if you want to be that much of an anti-AI snob. Linus is using LLMs on the kernel.

https://arstechnica.com/ai/2026/07/linus-torvalds-to-critics-of-ai-coding-in-linux-fork-it-or-just-walk-away/

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[+] just_another_person@lemmy.world -6 points 2 months ago (4 children)

Debian isn't "ambracing AI"? Where'd you get that?

Ubuntu has been making plays in that direction. Not the same thing.

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[+] realitaetsverlust@piefed.zip -7 points 2 months ago (6 children)

No. And I think that switching from debian because "Muuuh LLMs bad" is - while obviously your choice to do so - a stupid move.

You can't escape LLMs. The pandoras box is open. They will never disappear again, even if anthropic, openAI, google and meta are sucked into a black hole tomorrow (an event that I would celebrate big time), LLMs would still exists and be here. Instead of trying to avoid anything LLM-made, you should try to escape bad and abusive LLM projects. So no OpenAI, anthropic etc, and no shitty big tech LLMs in general.

At the end of the day, I don't think you will find a distro that is truly AI free. In general, you will most likely not find SOFTWARE that is truly AI free.

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[+] JTode@lemmy.world -9 points 2 months ago

We've seen this movie before, when they adopted systemd. It'll be fine.

[+] theneverfox@pawb.social -10 points 2 months ago (4 children)

Are you sure you're not mixing up Debian for Ubuntu?

I'm pretty sure Debian just said they weren't going to allow AI contributions

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[+] AlteredEgo@lemmy.ml -14 points 2 months ago (1 children)

What about commits by Russians? Or Israelis? Or MAGAts? Or Libertarians? Or Climate change deniers?

What you are doing is not okay. You're deliberately engaging in divisive action for no logical or beneficial reason.

[+] Kirk@startrek.website -20 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (7 children)

Please stop hyping up the power of text generators. LLMs aren't predators with will of their own, they only have as much power as we are willing to cede to them.

The more afraid we are of slop doing something other than just being slop, the more power we are giving the companies (which are harmful) to actually control us. Don't help them.

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[+] Epp@lemmus.org -22 points 2 months ago (16 children)

This shit's hilarious. It's like boycotting companies where they've voted to allow people to breathe oxygen.

Everything will have AI in the future, and it's impossible to discern when it was used. Attempting to ban it is hilarious because it can't be enforced since it's undetectable, so the ban is completely ineffective. It's just pandering to luddites.

At least it's amusing to watch.

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