This sounds exactly like what fans and critics alike slated the last Jedi for
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Wild Wild West.
Batshit crazy plot, appallingly unfunny script - clearly masterminded by deeply disconnected madmen. But well executed - great effects and technical filmmaking.
I remember Kevin Smith in one of his talks discussing Jon Peters, the producer of WWW, coming up with ridiculous suggestions and demands for a superman project they were both involved in, including a giant mechanical spider. Kevin was dropped from the project (it never got made) and then later he sees a giant mechanical spider in WWW and was like 'well that's all Jon'.
Smith's story is pretty epic. Probably wasn't the first time he told it, of course. And it became quite famous: in the end, Nicolas Cage, who was supposed to play Superman in Burton's film, had a cameo as Supes in 2023 ‘The Flash’ (iirc) fighting a giant spider.
It's also kinda funny that Silent Bob is rather chatty in real life, and toured colleges with these talks, releasing six of them, like three hours each. Whereas, whenever he brought Jason Mewes with him, the latter was mostly quiet.
Kevin Smith is great at talking about his favorite subject, which is Kevin Smith movies.
Every Wes Anderson movie.
runs
I once told a woman on a dating app that I can’t stand Wes Anderson films, and she immediately unmatched with me.
Fair.
The one exception being his horror masterpiece The Midnight Coterie of Sinister Intruders.
His career really took a weird turn after Nightmare on Elm Street
Leon: The professional
The sexual dynamic between the two characters makes me more uncomfortable the older that movie gets, and it makes me very uncomfortable that such a young actor is playing the role The way they do. The plot too is silly, nobody, not even an emotionless assassin would try to teach a kid to be an assassin for any reason. Kids are impulsive idiots and there's literally no upside to it. But holy hell does Gary Oldman absolutely rule in that movie.
Bad Santa?
That was my yearly Christmas watch for many years. It has a surprisingly heartwarming ending, and what a cast!
Jesus Christ… God damn it… Kid, are you fuckin’ with me?
It is deeply satisfying to watch talented actors indulge in saying every shitty thing you wish you could ever say.
The level of debauchery is a goddamn delight.
It is a dirty treat to watch, and I think that anyone who likes movies should at least watch it once.
The plot of Yellow Submarine is basically "the Beatles have a contractual obligation to make a movie but they can't be bothered, so let's get impressionists to voice cartoon Beatles and draw a bunch of drug-addled fuckery to illustrate some of their songs for an hour and a half."
In execution, it's a bizarrely compelling and beautiful piece of work that I enjoy a great deal despite not being into either the Beatles or drugs.
"John! Don't pull that lever!"
"Can't help it. I'm a born leverpuller!"
Pacific rim. Plot is fucking stupid but it doesn't matter. Only one robot has guns. They don't use the sword until the end. They never attack the rift that spawns the kaiju.
I got to see giant robots do wrestling moves on giant monsters. It's my favorite movie.
And the soundtrack. MAN.
That CG Netflix series was actually pretty rad in expanding the universe, too. I thought it was neat.
Pleasantville looks like a cheap gag in the preview, but honestly one of my favorite movies.
I remember my family going to that one expecting a silly "haha they're trapped in old TV where stuff is old-timey" thing and unexpectedly getting something really genuinely special.
The first Transformers by Micheal Bay … think of it most of Bay’s work before 2010
I remember when my wife and I watched Morbius, we were pretty impressed with the sound mixing. We could hear what everyone was saying without our ears getting blown out by the explosions and such.
I feel like the effects and such were all petty solid too, but there's no saving the fact that the story, writing, and acting were just trash.
I mean they weren't THAT bad... They weren't at the level of most stuff on !bmoviebonanza@lemmy.world . They were just kinda bland and not worth the price of a movie ticket.
The Star Wars sequel trilogy. What a waste of money and time.
The run down
I actually really like it for the very simple narrative. The natives win against the colonial slavers. Kind of sucks they needed outsiders, but still, it is the rise up and finally beat these assholes story generally only dreamt of in showers.
Solid listing here. Funny and some killer fight scenes. Roger Workman gets a busted nose, too.
Having just finished Event Horizon, I'm gonna go with that. Great cast, very interesting practical effects, silly plot, senseless gore.
I recently saw a video essay that argued that Event Horizon should be considered WH40K. They made some decent points.
Yep, the first time humanity flew through the Warp and realized the necessity of a Gellar field.
I thought they had confirmed that they intended it to be a 40k movie but never got the rights to the name so they made it a "generic" future but kept the script essentially the same.
Maybe. I never looked into it, just kinda went "huh, that's neat," when I ran into the video.
ATBGE? I missed that subreddit.
It's hard for me to pin down to be honest because good execution hides a lot. I've found the Ocean Twelve movie really dumb but enjoyed it ... not sure if it's horrible taste though?
The first one that leaps to mind is The Phantom Menace. World-class score, Duel Of The Fates alone is utterly epic. Casting is almost perfect, probably don't ruin that poor child's life. Get a teenager to play Anakin. Set and costume design are great, the plot is ridiculous. The boys at RedLetterMedia articulated it better than I ever will, but, you could fix it with a script rewrite or two.
Popeye also jumps to mind. The 1980 live-action movie starring Robin Williams and Shelley Duvall. Paramount lost the bid to make Annie, the studio had their hearts set on making a broadway musical adaptation of a depression-era IP, and the first thing that occurred to anyone was they had the rights to Popeye. Of all things. Annie is a broadway musical, so songs complete with dance numbers were already built in. Popeye is a cartoon wedged somewhere between Betty Boop and Bugs Bunny. They decided to make a Popeye musical. And commenced principal photography before writing any songs. They ADR'd songs over top of scenes they shot before the songs were written. Which is why it's...not really remembered as a musical. Directed by Robert "I directed MASH" Altman very much in his style, much of the film consists of characters blathering over each other incessantly. The collision of the cartoon physics and character proportions with the very grounded Altman style is uniquely jarring. AND YET. The set design, cinematography and costume design are excellent. It's a badly conceived stupid idea executed by consummate professionals.
I might have to watch that. I could tell at first glance that it was bad, but I didn't know it was bad XD
I'm surprised no one's mentioned Team America: World Police yet. That one has highly innovative puppetry behind it as well as brilliant engineering... all for a horrible film with a badly written plot as well as (shudder) horrible depiction.
Then again, almost every Trey Parker movie is tasteless.
Dazed and confused. Really no plot, but it's great.
The Big Lebowski is sort of like this too I think. I actually can't remember if he even gets his rug back lol, but also it doesn't matter.
I really like American Hustle (2013). The plot is kind of ridiculous. The emotional abuse amongst the characters should make me hate everyone, but there's so much star power charisma, and it was shot well enough, that it's a fun watch that I find myself going back to despite not being a remarkable film.
While a lot of the plot is embellished, cause it's a movie, the base premise is based on actual events. The Wikipedia has a good section on the historical accuracy - [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_Hustle(https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_Hustle)
There’s a movie called Crime 101, it’s got pretty good actors, it’s shot very well, the writing is even decent but it’s the most cliche boring heist/crime plot I’ve ever watched. You can guess basically everything the entire movie. Afterwards it was very clear that everyone involved was capable of making a far better movie but the plot was so terribly predictable
The clue was right there in the name
Depends upon your perspective, but The Rocky Horror Picture Show might qualify.