Its the US
Nobody gives a shit about people needing public transportation
Or people suffering from Boise because those are just the stupid poor people
You can't make money off of them so they're useless
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Its the US
Nobody gives a shit about people needing public transportation
Or people suffering from Boise because those are just the stupid poor people
You can't make money off of them so they're useless
When I lived there Americans would act like I was suffering because I chose to ride my bike home. They would push to give me a ride really hard.
If I tried to take a bus, they would rather drive me around than let me take the bus.
They were very kind, but god they are confused
Sounds like you were acquainted with a lot of kind helpful people in the usa. My experience in the USA riding a bike & bus is that people made fun of me & relegated me to a lower social class. But nobody has ever offered a ride.
This was in San Diego. My childhood home was like your experience. Not sure where you were, but some places have a pretty stuck up culture. There are places that aren't so toxic
It's time for infastructure week!
(who am I kidding)
Uogh also just thinking about all the microplasrics and car fumes in the air, not a great experience.

Irving Park on the Blue line was my morning and evening walking nightmare. I always felt so exposed to just a random accident especially a truck tire which I did witness hit the station but no people or trains thankfully.
I'd be less concerned about noise and more so flying debris. Interstates are dangerous in that flying debris can be as bad as chunk of spare iron flying.
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What the fuck am i looking at 💀 The european brain cannot comprehend this
It's because there's no-one bibbing their horns isn't it?
Holy narrow gauge Batman
That’s the electrified third rail.
Why is it just exposed like that. That seems needlessly dangerous.
I think there's 4 rails there. I believe the 1 on the outside is the electrified 3rd rail, the middle is the outside rail, the left is a rail to prevent derailed trains from entering the road, and the 4th rail is not visible in this video.
Here's another perspective of that station:

Also fun fact, there's 2 Garfield Stations in Chicago.
Be happy you at least have access to something resembling public transport
It's also insane that there would be a metro station next to somewhere that no pedestrian ever wants to go.
I’ve realized first handed how much a 24’ wall/ sound barrier does. Like omg it should be all along all highways especially if it’s a bridge over houses just like the other parts of this city.
I saw these in Chicago. Looks like hell.
We dont have this in Sweden. They are never next to massive highway, not even in Stockholm.
But US is its own "special" category in the world and I hate to see Sweden become more and more Americanized.
On the other hand, why the fuck should I even care about it. The world will do what it will do. Mostly very stupid and insane things these days.
We do have train lines passing highways, including stations near them, but not designed like this, never at the same level without barriers. It's always dozens of meters apart and with more elevation, sometimes on train bridges.
I wonder how that layout even happens. Are rails and highways planned together?
I guess here in Switzerland the rail lines are mostly much older than the highways, and that's why this doesn't feel familiar
Sometimes. Sometimes they create highways in the USA that have a huge gap in the middle so they can add more lanes in the future if needed. Those gaps can sometimes be repurposed for public transport. It's really just lobbyists that have pushed for cars since 1940 so the rich fucks can get richer by selling more cars. America has shit transportation so we can ensure the worst people in society get richer and richer.
I've been to Chicago exactly once in my life, for just about exactly 24 hours, ten years ago. And while I did ride the CTA, it wasn't the Red Line. Why was I instantly able to recognize this as Chicago? Rosemont Station on the Blue Line was my hotel stop, and that's where I thought this was until I googled Garfield Station.
That is a very high definition video. Is that just 4k on a phone?
It’s the frame rate I notice more than the resolution. I think it’s shot at 60fps.
What does this station serve? The point of public transport is to get you into a populated public area or a commuter station, right next to where houses and people are. You build them where they can/are used I.e. in the middle of suburbia where you can walk to them, not next to a highway.
Do US designers understand passenger rail?
Edit: Nobody has responded in this thread about why the way this is built is good (admittedly this particular station does serve a nearby uni, but I was meaning generally and even so, this station location does not seem the best option), offered solutions or agreed that it's just stupid and shouldn't be this way. And some seem to think that suburbs aren't part of cities. It's baffling.
This is also not the first time a US passenger rail conversation I've had on Lemmy has gone like this. Are you all happy with the way your rail works and your commuter traffic? Do you not see how other places work and compare? Do you understand the point of mass transport or is this something that just isnt experienced/taught in schools. I don't get it. The apathy to fix anything is terrible. It does explain a few things about why you get walked over by your governments though. Truly, it's just a bit sad. It's like you don't even realise it doesn't have to be this way. You never used to be like this.
Seems like it serves at least an entire university and has a dedicated pedestrian bridge.
Dunking on US public transport is easy and fun, so I sympathize, but if we do attempt public transportation it's generally not needlessly stupid. Sometimes it ends up stupid anyway, but I try not to hate unnecessarily. It seems pretty close to the university, and I'm sure there are reasons why it's in the middle of a highway.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Garfield_station_(CTA_Red_Line)
Rail sometimes end up in the middle of a highway because the government already owns the land in that median, and it's a lot easier and cheaper to build there than buying and clearing other routes.
The seeds of urban sprawl with shitty transportation were planted decades ago. Fixing it isn't cheap, but some bandaids are easier than others.
Not sure about this station specifically, just speaking broadly
it should also be noted that the station has bus connections that jump onto (and come off from,) the highway, serving as a connection between busses coming from places trains don't run to the train.
You realize that people live in cities and not just in suburbia right? They also work and go to school in cities. What the hell are you smoking?
The other side of the station probably has a destination. There’a also one like this in Boston; right against I-93 South on one side, stores and neighborhood on the other. They’ve just crammed all the transit into the smallest corridor possible.
As others have said, it's near a university.
However, this isn't how you should build public transit, along a corridor. It a) restricts the other mode of transport for evermore b) it encourages growth near the station (which isn't what you would want) c) discourages walking cities d) it's loud af e) it's not in the centre of an area but the outskirts which means it's less usable for the majority of the area and more for only the people hemmed around the highway.
It's like nobody looks at city maps from around the world and how passenger suburban and city rail is a new/difficult concept.
No, it's in the median of the Dan Ryan Expressway / Interstate 94. The other side is the other direction of traffic. I've seen it in person. It is among the shittiest of shitty American transit stations.
Why the fuck would they put it in the median? What the hell?
You're not gonna believe the demographics in the south side of chicago

Nobody has responded in this thread about why the way this is built is good ([...]), offered solutions or agreed that it's just stupid and shouldn't be this way.
Isn't that refreshing? The video is only 22 seconds long. It's just enough context to show that the highway noise is indeed noisy there.
Most of us don't know what the requirements were when planning and designing this station. Most of us probably never had to plan/design these things. Too many people on the Internet speak with an authoritative tone despite being ignorant of the subject matter. I see no harm in letting a conversation be free of armchair experts.
Public transpiration in the US is woefully inadequate, so you won't see me defending it's current state too much. But there is a logic to a line following a highway; clearly this thoroughfare has the demand of people to get from point A to point B; that's why there's a highway there.
Why would there need to be a sound barrier between two things that are both noisy? The only unique thing here is the passenger train running right next to the freeway. But what's the problem? And don't tell me the problem is "noise." Trains & cars are both noisy. If you want a sound barrier, put on noise-canceling headphones.
Maybe OP was complaining about the noise the trains make from the perspective of the cars? /s
The way I instantly recognized that and I don't even live in that state anymore lol