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[–] Xenny@lemmy.world 29 points 1 hour ago* (last edited 8 minutes ago) (2 children)

As someone who actually makes the food I think drivers shouln't get tips but instead should be paid more. They should also have full vehicle maintenance covered while driving for work too. The whole delivery service thing is a grift that is eroding the resturaunt industry hard. If it wasn't for VC money it wouldn't even be feasable. Things will need to change soon

[–] capt_wolf@lemmy.world 17 points 1 hour ago

Tipping culture is bullshit anyway. If you run a business where you can't afford to pay your employees enough without going out of business, then your business shouldn't exist.

[–] Funkt4st1c@lemmy.world 4 points 53 minutes ago (1 children)

I think all tipped staff should instead be paid livable wage, but still be allowed to collect tips. Tipping should be something you do to flirt with the waitress or reward a team that did a really outstanding job

[–] moonshadow@slrpnk.net 1 points 35 minutes ago

You've got an interesting idea of flirting lol

"Hey baby, here's some cash. More where that came from ;)"

[–] Janx@piefed.social 3 points 48 minutes ago

2 things can be simultaneously true:

  1. Tipping culture in the US is absolutely fucked and employers should be paying their employees
  2. Underpaid workers currently depend on your tips to survive
[–] ch00f@lemmy.world 2 points 41 minutes ago

The stripes on the tests fade. It wouldn't be that visible after three months.

[–] cRazi_man@europe.pub 47 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

Conversation with the wife:

"Are you pregnant?"

"No"

"Well some asshole left his trash on my windshield. And can you believe that a 3 course meal from a midrange restaurant costs $300 now?? WTF."

[–] dalekcaan@feddit.nl 7 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

I think the implication would be that an angry mistress left it

[–] gastroglizzy@piefed.social 3 points 18 minutes ago

I think the implication is that a healthy relationship wouldn't be phased by such a stunt.

[–] daannii@lemmy.world 1 points 39 minutes ago

Well. ..timeline isn't quite plausible. As these line tests fade pretty fast.

In a week it would be basically white with no lines.

Maybe 2 weeks.

Still funny tho

[–] HerbGrower@slrpnk.net 5 points 1 hour ago* (last edited 1 hour ago) (2 children)

Vindictive delivery drivers like this are yet another reason why I only make my own food.

Also, you know, I won't spend 300 quid on 1 meal.

[–] PM_ME_VINTAGE_30S@anarchist.nexus 2 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

Also, you know, I won't spend 300 quid on 1 meal.

Parties tho

[–] HerbGrower@slrpnk.net 3 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

I mean I guess not but like I think it is absolutely possible that at some point in your life, you might spend $300, or perhaps someone else's $300 (e.g. your employer) to get catering.

[–] PM_ME_VINTAGE_30S@anarchist.nexus -4 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

I mean maybe if you tipped us we wouldn't have to be so vindictive 🤷

[–] HerbGrower@slrpnk.net 7 points 1 hour ago* (last edited 1 hour ago) (1 children)

Yeah and then it becomes omg that was only 10%. Fuck that, I would rather not participate at all.

[–] PM_ME_VINTAGE_30S@anarchist.nexus -1 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

Fuck that, I would rather not participate at all.

Like this is literally what I wanted when I worked in pizza delivery for seven years, literally just do pickup if you can't afford to tip. And tbh I don't order delivery anymore for that exact reason.

[–] HerbGrower@slrpnk.net 2 points 1 hour ago* (last edited 1 hour ago) (1 children)

Then you get more crying about how much the hospitality sector is struggling - this is where we are currently where I live.

Funny thing is, wetherspoons are doing fine. Only once ever seen someone give a tip there and it was borderline sexual harassment.

I mean okay, but don't point your frustration at the proletarians who rely on your tips to survive. Like yeah tipping culture is bullshit, but it's not imposed by your servers and delivery drivers; it's imposed by capitalists and their demonic governments. We'd rather just get a living wage right out the gate, but that's literally not an option.

Then you get more crying about how much the hospitality sector is struggling

Not our fault. Not your fault either. It's the fault of the capitalists who are ruining our world and pitting us against each other.

[–] usualsuspect191@lemmy.ca 110 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

The customer paid for delivery already; it's not the guy's fault Uber Eats doesn't pay you enough

[–] Obituarykidney@lemmy.world 62 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

And the service fee, and the priority fee so it's not cold, and the mark-up on the food

[–] ByteJunk@lemmy.world 30 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

"Your driver is delivering another order first"

Sure ask me again for that tip, APP. Do it. I dare you.

[–] chocrates@piefed.world 2 points 7 minutes ago

C'mon guys it's the soulless corporation exploiting the poor that we need to be mad at

[–] ILikeBoobies@lemmy.ca 17 points 3 hours ago

They paid $300...

[–] Molvorin@feddit.dk 75 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

This is so weird to read as a European.. Tips here are almost frowned upon

[–] lokalhorst@feddit.org 22 points 3 hours ago (2 children)

In Germany it's pretty common to tip a bit, even if not nearly as much as in the US. I wouldn't know what to tip for a 300€ order though because... What the fuck, did they order cocaine?

[–] Wizard_Pope@lemmy.world 9 points 3 hours ago (2 children)
[–] HerbGrower@slrpnk.net 3 points 1 hour ago

300 is a round number already though. So no tip? 298.56 I could see rounding to 300 though.

[–] JelleWho@lemmy.world 4 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

I would try $5, they might not understand our currency

[–] Wizard_Pope@lemmy.world 3 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

No fuck them I say. They cannot even be bothered to tip in € when they come here. If I ever visit their godforsaken land again I will tip them in € out of spite

[–] HerbGrower@slrpnk.net 1 points 1 hour ago* (last edited 1 hour ago)

Pick one of the old currencies that is no longer in circulation. Leave them 2000 Italian lira.

[–] Enekk@lemmy.world 2 points 2 hours ago

The fun thing is that we'd be expected to pay between 15 and 20 percent on such an order.

[–] ExLisper@lemmy.curiana.net 6 points 2 hours ago

And he knew it was his car because...

[–] wreckedcarzz@lemmy.world 14 points 3 hours ago

needs to get exploited to cover bills

let's have a baby :D

while I am moderately humored by the initial gesture, you and your partner are idiots, CJ

[–] Mulligrubs@lemmy.world 17 points 5 hours ago (3 children)

Instead of this moronic "voluntary" expectation, let's all save thousands of hours of arguments, posts, and complaints from everyone involved and add 20% to the bill for the worker done and done.

Sometimes you don't want to tip? No shit. I don't want to tip. I don't even want to pay. But I do it.

Let's all do what we want, good idea, everything is free and nobody works and we can just run through the woods and frolic which sounds like a good idea until you get hungry

[–] Stefan_S_from_H@piefed.zip 34 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

Whenever I see Americans talking about tips, I imagine them like just another tax they have and not add to the price before the customer pays.

[–] motionofethre@piefed.social 13 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

You just don't understand the freedom

[–] Valmond@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 1 hour ago

It's the choice of paying taxes!

[–] Sanguine@lemmy.dbzer0.com 14 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

No no no, see here we add 7 dollars for "delivery" and as you would correctly assume, that goes directly to the CEO's 4th yacht.

Then we shame the customer into dropping another 15 or 20%.

I've recently just stopped tipping for any company that puts a fake delivery fee in their subtotal (or outright stop ordering from them when possible).

[–] dual_sport_dork@lemmy.world 8 points 4 hours ago* (last edited 3 hours ago)

I worked for a place that did this, i.e. added a delivery surcharge which the house kept. I discovered that this is, in fact, illegal in my state unless it is disclosed in writing. Which it wasn't.

When we had a new point of sale system installed, as our restaurant's resident tech person I naturally adjusted the such that were were in compliance with the law and delivery surcharges were pooled with the employees' tips.

The owner never noticed.

[–] jqubed@lemmy.world 4 points 4 hours ago

The problem is the delivery companies are abusing the definition of “tip” and how they pay their drivers. I used to drive deliveries for DoorDash and they typically only pay $1.50-2.50 per delivery, despite charging $6-8 for a delivery fee, on top of prices typically being 30% higher than the menu in the restaurant. As a driver, the rule of thumb is typically that you shouldn’t take a job paying less than $1/mile. So the rest of the money for the driver comes from the “tip”. A tip is supposed to be a bonus reward for good service, but the reality of the situation on these delivery services is that it’s just the rest of the delivery fee to the driver. The delivery companies know if they list it as an actual delivery fee they’ll lose customers because some customers will feel like the fees become too excessive. So instead they exploit inexperienced drivers into taking orders thinking they’ll get a tip later, but often end up with nothing. And customers who think the tip is actually a tip according to the original definition and voluntary often end up with bad service because experienced drivers will pass on the deliveries, meaning they sit and sit, with food getting cold while the delivery service eventually starts offering to increase the pay in 25¢ increments after a certain number of rejections. Sometimes orders will sit for a couple hours before someone will finally take the order. This is still bad for the drivers, because the customers will often leave them a bad review, blaming the driver for the order taking so long to arrive. The driver doesn’t know what part is “tip” until the delivery is complete.

The reviews are another bad system. Historically people think of a 5-star rating system goes from 1 star being terrible, two being below average, three being average, four being above average, and five being excellent. However, rating systems often rank anything below five stars as bad. So people will leave a four star review thinking that’s good but as far as the company is concerned is bad. IIRC DoorDash drops any driver with a rating below 4.7. And we see this problem a lot of places online: product reviews on shops, online business reviews, even hotels where 3 stars was traditionally decent now see that as bad.

[–] MsPenguinette@lemmy.world 12 points 5 hours ago (2 children)

Imagine being single and actively casually dating and having this just run in your head for the rest of your life. Never knowing if someone is going to show up to your door and introduce you as the parent. I think part of the terrorism is that it'd affect everything, and be especially hainious if you want to be a parent. Youd have to tell future potential long term partners that there may be a child out there. I think might be one of the most long term cognitohazard pranks I've seen

[–] luthis@lemmy.nz 8 points 4 hours ago

I don't think the recipient in this case is sexually active. It seems not even just the tip...

[–] Sergio@piefed.social 5 points 4 hours ago (1 children)
  • 1% probability: someone is pregnant and just never told me.
  • 99% probability: someone is playing a prank on me.
[–] NikkiDimes@lemmy.world 3 points 3 hours ago* (last edited 3 hours ago)

And that 1% will eat you alive. Fuck Uber Eats for how they pay their drivers, but fuck that guy. Ordering $300 of food and not even kicking a few bucks to the person delivering it, knowing full well that Uber pays their drivers like shit, is a trash move.

[–] CkrnkFrnchMn@lemmy.ca 2 points 3 hours ago

Brutal hehe...