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[–] Thebeardedsinglemalt@lemmy.world 14 points 6 hours ago (3 children)

Betrayed now? Not after they openly mocked you for not wearing a suit?

[–] clanker_victim_555@lemmy.world 6 points 3 hours ago* (last edited 3 hours ago)

He ate shit and humiliated himself in front of the whole world on the off chance he could still get some benefit for Ukraine. This means he's given up on them.

[–] Taldan@lemmy.world 6 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

People died because of this. Why would mocking his clothing even be a blip in comparison?

Because they were withholding approved military funding solely because he didn't wear a suit...and all in attendance were mocking him because of it.

[–] CrimeIsLegalNow@ani.social 2 points 6 hours ago (1 children)
[–] Prior_Industry@lemmy.world 7 points 6 hours ago

Exactly. This is a point he can push a lot harder as it's a solid example of how the US cannot be trusted as an ally.

[–] Gpennyhigh@lemmy.world 4 points 4 hours ago* (last edited 4 hours ago)

The magas keep betraying, it's their thing, and even Bush said don't get fooled so many times. I really want putin to leave and stay in existing lands, has plenty so stop killing all these people and all the suffering. Stop the dictator bs and could have had a much better economy and quality of life for people there if he did the right things, followed the Nordic models. Estonia and others have advanced with their freedom from the unhealthy controlling ways and putin could have done all that too, but no, doubled down on toxic systems and scapegoat minorities. Same horrible policies always bring horrible results for the majority, but the wealthy benefit. The wealthy and powerful protect their benefits and privileges at the expense of the many as we can see over and over in history.

[–] housedogpartyfavor@lemmy.zip 11 points 6 hours ago (1 children)
[–] CrimeIsLegalNow@ani.social 8 points 6 hours ago

Which is why he can say it now instead of having to suck it up and smile for the cameras

[–] emergencyfood@sh.itjust.works 14 points 7 hours ago (2 children)

Volodymyr Zelensky should take a history book and read about how the US treats its allies once they are no longer useful.

[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 7 points 7 hours ago

Actually, the US has always supported the Ukrainian quest for independence. Don't listen to the naysayers. They simply don't understand the deep bound that exists between our two nations.

[–] abc@suppo.fi 3 points 7 hours ago* (last edited 7 hours ago) (1 children)

Support them for 46 years until their enemy collapses? That's West Europe.

[–] emergencyfood@sh.itjust.works 1 points 5 hours ago

once they are no longer useful.

Europe served as a useful buffer against the Warsaw Pact and later the various West Asian countries. But maybe that is ending now, and the European countries have started becoming 'no longer useful'.

[–] NewSocialWhoDis@lemmy.zip 15 points 8 hours ago* (last edited 6 hours ago) (5 children)

Elon had already disabled Starlink access to them once, back at the start of the war when Biden was still president. I don't understand why Ukraine hasn't divested of SpaceX at this point. Hopefully they have diversified their sources of intel and comms, at least. Europe is starting to develop some nice alternatives like ICEYE, and have given multiple pledges? suggestions? to utilize it in support of Ukraine, I thought.

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[–] bitjunkie@lemmy.world 11 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

Using the word "betrayed" implies he trusted him in the first place, which I strongly doubt.

[–] zalgotext@sh.itjust.works 18 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

Zelensky knows how to play the game though

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[–] dan1101@lemmy.world 11 points 9 hours ago* (last edited 4 hours ago) (3 children)

I think Zelensky has done a really good job overall in a really bad situation, but you don't have to read much news to know both Trump and Musk and terrible people and not to be trusted.

Be happy it lasted this long when dealing with these two billionaire psychopaths.

[–] BilSabab@lemmy.world 5 points 8 hours ago

it's not like you can choose leaders of an allied states without making it weird.

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[–] wifemademesignup@lemmy.world 7 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

I guess Trump got tired of all that winning...

[–] BilSabab@lemmy.world 3 points 8 hours ago

he ran out of winning quotas for this year. poor Donald.

[–] IndustryStandard@lemmy.world 37 points 13 hours ago (2 children)

Keep bombing the oil Zelenskyy it is time to go green

[–] BiteRabbit@reddthat.com 1 points 6 hours ago

People aren't paying close enough attention to the oil oligarchy, and the known, and not puppet/fall guy white supremacists dispite the knowns 1) that modern war is a result of oil control, and 2) that indigenous people were offed for their land rich in oil deposits. To this day evangelical churches are located at oil deposits (see book 'Annointed with Oil' (this kind🛢). Oil Tycoons funded churches to get colonizers to live next to the filthy oil wells, and the churches preached the benefits of oil to benefits their expansion. Koch refineries NEVER stopped churning in Russia. And at the very beginning of the Urk/Rus spit: 1) Methane deposits were "discovered" on the coast of Crimea and Hillary spoke about Crimea and Putin in her run for president against Trump and 2) A Koch NGO wrote a letter essentially saying that perhaps the conflict shouldn't happen, just after it began. Like as if Kochs themsleves had cold feet. And the Kochs are the brain child of ALEC, and a Koch ran for president in the 80's under the libertarian party and was deeply embarrassed in his efforts. Now put two and two together. Lots of Europe was buying piped in "natural gas" (is literally just methane) from Russia. And then they discover methane closer to home. US helps Zelinski get into office. The 1st thing Russia did was build a engineering feat of a bridge to Crimea. And then the US fuels the fire, then steps back and profits from war (NATO's weapon supplier of choice) that is now too far along to end. Meanwhile Israel decides to be advantageous and begins their invasion and take over of whatever they can. And Ukr per Zelinski want to be like Israel. And somehow they are using red scare to fuel Russia attack, yet Russia hasn't been communist for decades. And look up Larry Summers wiki. He was in the White House advising Russia on what oligarchs will get what soviet socialized industries, and was at Harvard (another place that should be met with A LOT of scrutiny) to influence Facebook's ownership. Of which FB has been sucessfully sued by the Rohindya people for genocide mongering (same playback as Rwanda's radio station, may I add) and which Kenyans are following in the same suit currently. Then theirs Clinton and Monica, and his midnight call to Benjamin Zion Wattenberg, who wrote the birth Dearth and is one of the most influential and openly modern eugenists of of time because of that book. People need to step back, and realize that the stories your being fed, are just that. You are supposed to be overwhelmed and not look deeper or connect the damn dots. And it works for as long as you and society as a whole wants to be entertained. And don't even get me started on the "cold war". 🙄 Who profited/benefitted and what was actually achieved. Those are the only questions you should be asking about anything. Stop being force fed BS, and then in your own ignorance, complimenting the chefs. Our problem as a people is their are too many useable idiots amongst us. ZOOM OUT. Think like an oligarch. He isn't being entertained. He is using our mass ignorance as his elevator. FFS. If the majority of people can't tell what's BS at this point, we're F'd. Enjoy willfully oppressing your own children, and the earth.

Sorry, (not sorry) but this rant apparently needs to happen.

READ, contemplate for yourself, and know thy enemy.

[–] thatOneGuy@aussie.zone 13 points 13 hours ago* (last edited 13 hours ago) (7 children)

Their ability to bomb* the oil depots is probably related to their starlink/starshield access. 🥺

[–] BilSabab@lemmy.world 2 points 7 hours ago

Starlink bandwidth cap affected air defences of Kyiv

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[–] TheObviousSolution@lemmy.ca 14 points 11 hours ago (2 children)

I felt this was going to happen eventually, I just didn't know how soon. It also follows suit with Trump working to create a new world hegemony where he sees himself acquiring Canada and Greenland and letting everything else fall to Russia and China. The only way it can even begin to be real is with a world war where the US deliberately ghosts Europe and NATO, and it has already begun to do that.

[–] BilSabab@lemmy.world 3 points 7 hours ago

Trump's international policy is so incoherent it is much more productive to compare it with type 2 jam instead of international politics.

[–] jj4211@lemmy.world 3 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

You forgot Cuba and Venezuela, and likely more.

Taking some solace that while there's a lot more than just Trump at work here, he is somehow the key figurehead that when he passes (how long can a fat 80 year old who loves fast food last, even with the best health care?) wil leave the broader movement unraveling.

[–] TheObviousSolution@lemmy.ca 6 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

It won't unravel, it will just get more extreme from now on. This is not something you just democratically vote yourself away from. The very concept of democracy is almost no longer tenable given how techno oligarchs have perfected within their social networks what Cambridge Analytica started.

I don't know, but I think we are headed towards the modern analogue of the sort of dark ages that have left empty capitals out of ancient civilizations that had previously been thriving, with AI and robotics being prepped to fill the voids. The value of human society is rapidly becoming less of a necessity for the ultrarich, with lies and deception are part of their core values - half truths and a tailored mix rationale and dehumanization that will sadly shape the future of our timeline by appealing to society's baser emotions. I dread for our future and bid farewell to the sort of one that seemed possible from the world that once cooperated and averted the ozone hole from becoming a catastrophe.

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[–] Mihies@programming.dev 54 points 15 hours ago (2 children)

I for one admire Zelensky for keeping it up until now. There are not many that could be in his position dealing with the Orange corrupted paedophile.

[–] auzy1@lemmy.world 11 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

Whilst it could be argued he's not fighting in the war, he's definitely put a massive target on his own head that is bigger than most soldiers, and keeps himself at risk.

You can hear the sound of Zalensky's massive balls clanging together from miles away.

And unlike Trump, you can tell he isn't worried about what people think of him. He doesn't try to pretend to be a "strong man"

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[–] adhdsergio@lemmy.world 26 points 15 hours ago

It's because he puts the good of the country above his personal pride and feelings. He is being a true professional with the orange moron

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