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After reading this news story that half of Americans are skipping meals because of affordability and a bad economy, I have to ask how are you all doing out there?

I heard from a real estate agent friend of mine that REOs, i.e. bank foreclosures on home mortgages, are going up like crazy, which is a sign of bad times, like the recession of 2007-08.

I have heard from others about rents not being paid, lack of jobs, etc.

Every day, there’s more news of corporate layoffs, moreso than usual.

I live in the economic bubble of the SF Bay Area, where tech wealth more-or-less insulates me and mine from the most serious consequences of a bad economy, but how are things elsewhere?

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[–] RBWells@lemmy.world 8 points 1 day ago

It's ok not great I guess? There is a growing disconnect between prices of goods, and wages. Rents and house prices being the biggest example but also electricity, food, gas (I don't drive much but the gas price shows up in other things like food)

[–] AA5B@lemmy.world 7 points 1 day ago

My company had another layoff about a month ago. But it didn’t get me

[–] jobbies@lemmy.zip 27 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Scotland. Fucked. The terrifying thing I realised recently is how I can see the sharp decline in living standards pre-and-post covid. If we dont get a grip of it we're backsliding toward Dickensian levels of poverty and deprivation.

Other thing I noticed recently - how most of our short-term problems can be linked to that cunt Trump. Iran war, tariffs, Ukraine etc. I say this to highlight to the Americans in the room that your political choices have implications far beyond your own borders. Theres fuck all I can do about him, but plenty you can do.

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[–] Octavio@piefed.social 28 points 1 day ago

Booming in Taiwan. GDP growth over 10%, construction cranes everywhere you look, shops and restaurants going gangbusters. And it’s all because of the world’s insatiable appetite for AI chips. So, yah. What could go wrong?

[–] Witchfire@lemmy.world 1 points 17 hours ago

To shreds you say...

[–] myyass@lemmy.world 1 points 17 hours ago

Not giving a shit is what it is. Third? Fourth? time around, I think I'm getting kinky.

[–] hexagonwin@lemmy.today 12 points 1 day ago

am in south korea.. samsung/hynix semiconductors are selling like crazy and that heavily lifts the numbers like GDP, but actual economy feels terrible overall. living prices are rising heavily while wages are stagnant.

[–] digdig@piefed.social 6 points 1 day ago

Sketchy, UK, Southern, think below London and on the Sea.

I'm a carpenter and have someone with a masters in environmental science working for me as a labourer.

Many of my construction friends are being called by there office friends for jobs.

[–] moondoggie@lemmy.world 18 points 1 day ago

Good news! The Wall Street types have started using this brand new, never-been-used-before thing called a credit default swap to hedge their bets against AI companies. Good thing none of those words have ever been used before in the financial industry or associated with any financial collapses.

[–] farmgineer@nord.pub 37 points 1 day ago (3 children)

I live in rural northern Japan so... not great? Everything keeps concentrating to Tokyo. We were promised "work from anywhere in Japan" and "remote-first", but the company tried to revoke that. A couple of us joined a union and are fighting it, but most people just rolled over and took it. Still don't know what things will look like come next year.

There are very few remote backend software engineering jobs in Japan now. The situation is pretty dire. No US or Canadian company wants me in this time zone (even if it allowed them to have people available around the clock). No one wants to sponsor a visa in another country.

I have a small farm, but it's not profitable. Most of the other jobs around here are forestry, fishery, and factory and pay less than half of what I make now which my family cannot survive on. Things are rusty and falling apart all over in the countryside.

[–] Rason_Facts@lemmy.zip 5 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I really wish I could go back to my northern (urban) Japan cost of living, though. Not sure how things are now over a decade later, but I was paying 700円 per month for cellular + data, 2000円 per month on gigabit internet, and 33000円 per month for a 1LDK apartment...

Excluding food and utilities, that was just a hair over 200 Euro per month for expenses in today's currency (but conversion rate may also be more favorable to Euro today than back then).

[–] farmgineer@nord.pub 5 points 1 day ago

I have a cell provider with a pretty small data limit, but I almost never use it. They no longer even take new customers. ~2400/mo. My internet is with NTT and fiber to the home at 5500 a month + servicer fee -> about 6500 a month after price increases in 2027 they announced.

When I lived in a sharehouse in 2013, it was over double what you were paying and about 12 minutes from a station in suburban tokyo. My first apartment about 8 minutes away was 115,000 ish plus all utils just inside the 23ku and was 33sqm IIRC.

Cost of living including groceries and such have gone up like crazy since corona. Everything is undergoing shrinkflation and raises aren't keeping up unless you're at a really good company.

Even living in the countryside now, costs are still way over what they were for Tohoku. My prices here are more than even Tokyo when I moved here for a lot of groceries and such.

My mortgage on its own is over 85,000 in the deep countryside almost an hour walk to a station. I'm sure apartments are cheaper, but this is on a used house built in '96 IIRC (though with some rennovation and a new roof not long before I bought it).

[–] ComradeMiao@lemmy.world 12 points 1 day ago

Here in Tokyo, I feel things are pretty rough financially too. I cannot imagine how hard it is in inaka. It’s quite sad that everything seems to be pulled towards a few cities. This feels different than America where the draw is to bigger local cities whereas here it’s mostly to only the biggest cities.

[–] Subscript5676@piefed.ca 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I can't day I'm very well-informed on the issue as an outsider, but I've heard that the central government (at least in the recent past) have tried to encourage people to move out into inakas in an attempt to slow down or even reverse the migration trend. Some carrots, like housing subsidies if I remember correctly, are even offered, but there hasn't been many sticks, eg actually encouraging able firms to keep their jobs remote, from what I know.

So I guess my question is, has this sentiment / tone changed from the government (esp since the LDP has had a few leadership changes in the last few years)? I did hear of the intention to have a second capital, likely in Osaka, but that seems only tangentially related.

[–] farmgineer@nord.pub 5 points 1 day ago (1 children)

encourage people to move out into inakas in an attempt to slow down or even reverse the migration trend.

That may sometimes be the case. However, companies like mine (and no I won't name it since I don't want to be sued) say "work from anywhere in Japan" and then go "J/K, we now require you in the office with no relocation expenses and a monthly travel budget of 20k JPY (which is less than a single trip for me which also takes 8 hours round trip with buffer). My union is fighting this and we are willing to go to court since I was never required to be in the office except for about 3 days of orientation. The results are spotty in cases like this with some courts favoring the contract which, as a permanent employee, has traditionally means the company more or less owns you. On the other hand, there are protections against undue hardship which is one way in which we would fight it. However, because of things like this, no one is willing to move to the middle of nowhere with zero job opportunities.

like housing subsidies

I got a subsidy to move with my wife and buy a house. 1.3 million JPY to be paid back if we leave in < 5 years. Families could get more. We used it to buy a used car since I was a bit optimistic in thinking my motorbike and taxis would get us by. Almost no taxis after 6pm without prior reservation. No easy rental places right in the area to go that route when we would need a vehicle.

has this sentiment / tone changed from the government

The lip service doesn't change, but concrete actions, especially for people not doing low-paid manual labor, is missing. Add to that that companies still abuse laws and hope not to get caught, it's worthless. Much like many places in the US, we have lots of other immigrants, particularly from SE Asia, moving in to do ag work as well as nurses and carers for the elderly that are in high demand.

I did hear of the intention to have a second capital, likely in Osaka, but that seems only tangentially related.

Yeah, that's a thing. The LDP was trying to pay back the loyalty of those that worked with them. I don't have any problem in principal with Osaka functioning more like Tokyo in terms of governance (though this is not definitely Osaka last time I heard, but I don't follow it closely), though I don't know what this accomplishes other than people saying "yay, Osaka is great!" feel better and maybe solve some redundancy (which is not necessarily bad). Then again, I'm not following closely.

My problem with things like this: Osaka also has big natural disasters; the world is getting hotter all the time, why not do this somewhere more north; it's still performative more than anything as best I can tell (though I'm just a dude who can't vote living on the other side of the country). It doesn't actually decentralize and take pressure off the real estate market and other things that are facing increasing difficulty, and causing foreigner backlash (specifically AirBnB-type places and (often allegedly Chinese) illegal short-term accommodations buying up buildings illegally).

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[–] schipelblorp@sh.itjust.works 57 points 1 day ago (7 children)

What's weird to me is that economist are observing the official numbers and concluding that things aren't that bad and the public is suffering some kind of mass psychosis, when the reality is just worse than reflected in their numbers completely escapes them.

[–] AA5B@lemmy.world 6 points 1 day ago

Pay attention to the news reports talking about ‘K’ shaped economy, which is exactly what you’re talking about

[–] OneWomanCreamTeam@sh.itjust.works 31 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

That's because they aren't looking at numbers or statistics that are directly relevant to typical citizens. GDP isn't the same thing as average wages or cost of living.

The economy is great if you're disgustingly wealthy.

[–] schipelblorp@sh.itjust.works 8 points 1 day ago (4 children)

Yes, but they do look at stuff like the unemployment rate, wages, etc.. But I don't think it captures the lived experience of stagnation we've been having for the past several years, and even if there's "job growth" it might not be good jobs and people might know that they're chances of getting a good job are slim to none, etc... lots of little things that wouldn't necessarily be reflected in these incredibly broad statistics.

But economics, as a practiced science, is about boosting GDP, not making the lives of individuals better, so I think it indicates that the entire field is deeply flawed.

[–] mnemonicmonkeys@sh.itjust.works 12 points 1 day ago (1 children)

But economics, as a practiced science

"Economics" and "science" don't belong in a sentence together

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[–] Quilotoa@lemmy.ca 10 points 1 day ago

Good. I'm in a mining town, so the demand for minerals is moving things along. House prices are comparatively low. Northern Canada

[–] ApollosArrow@lemmy.world 13 points 1 day ago

I am skipping meals, and a lot of my clients’ budgets have gone down the drain.

[–] necronut@lemmy.zip 9 points 1 day ago

Recently moved 700 miles from everything I ever knew and loved because there was no work to be found... I still can't find work. Couple interviews but no luck. My only consolation is that I'm saving my buddy a fortune on child care by being a free sitter.

Send good vibes and luck pls.

[–] thesohoriots@lemmy.world 20 points 1 day ago (1 children)

U.S. There’s no jobs. I’m willing to bet it’s 95% ghost listings that keep getting reposted until covid loans get waived.

My spouse’s health insurance plan is actually pretty good with coverage and relatively lower in cost, but it’s still way too expensive and gets more expensive and worse every year. If it wasn’t for the (decreasingly) decent coverage, we’d be rationing meds and care, let alone meals.

But yeah, every single paycheck completely evaporates. There’s nothing left to cut back on. There’s nothing left to save. It’s a fucking delight.

[–] zikzak025@lemmy.world 8 points 1 day ago

I’m willing to bet it’s 95% ghost listings that keep getting reposted until covid loans get waived.

Either that or just straight-up data farming. How do you collect the identities of thousands of IT workers? Put up a bogus remote job listing for a too-good-to-be-true IT position on Indeed and let them send it to you voluntarily.

Subsequent marketing calls and scam emails unrelated.

[–] TropicalDingdong@lemmy.world 10 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Fucking 2008 bad. Tourism's been on the decline since 2020, and the only other industry is servicing gentrification.

[–] DagwoodIII@piefed.social 4 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Where are you posting from?

Thanks

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[–] roofuskit@lemmy.world 12 points 1 day ago (1 children)

It's going to be much worse than 2008 when the AI bubble pops. Most of the economy is in a recession that's getting worse every day. But spending on AI is propping up the rest of the economy. Once that house of cards crashes down we're going to be in a world of shit.

[–] shalafi@lemmy.world 1 points 16 hours ago

No, don't be silly. Lemmy has assured me many times that the "economy" and stock market are only for rich people and trillions of AI dollars going poof will have no effect on them.

[–] PetteriPano@lemmy.world 20 points 1 day ago (3 children)

I guess we're doing OK in Sweden. We're used to high grocery and fuel prices. I'm driving a diesel and filling up at almost $10 per gallon.

Energy prices are hurting. Mostly because we're on the same shared market as Germany.. and Germany has dismantled their nuclear energy. Wind and solar is great when it's windy or sunny. But it leaves us wanting on cold still nights.

The state has been subsidizing both fuel and electricity, but it's not really going to the right pockets.

[–] blackberry28@sh.itjust.works 2 points 23 hours ago (1 children)

Why not switch to an EV? I've heard the Scandinavian countries all have great charging infrastructure.

[–] PetteriPano@lemmy.world 3 points 22 hours ago

Price is one factor. I've never bought a new car. I've also never had a car loan.

Privacy is one factor. My 2016 is just about the newest you can get without being connected to the interwebs. I prefer my car to be finished as it rolls out of the factory without requiring updates like it was a modern game.

Caravan is one factor. I did 5000km towing a tonne this summer. Any range is cut in half when towing that. Most charging stations don't really make space for a trailer.

I'd consider a small cheap EV for local trips like grocery shopping or taking the kids to kindergarten. The diesel particle filter isn't too happy about short trips. We have electric bikes and trailers for that, so.. maybe if it's a gnarly winter.

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[–] TheReanuKeeves@lemmy.world 19 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I'm in Canada but the situation isn't much different. We are still feeling the effects of the pandemic economic bubble bursting as the cost of essentials were steadily raised through early COVID and have not dropped, still dealing with the homelessness issue, I'm not being political but Trump has caused a lot of economic strain on the entire world, people who got low interest mortgages during COVID aren't willing to let go of their house which causes further housing scarcity, there's so many factors. At least weed is legal though.

[–] partial_accumen@lemmy.world 8 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I hate what trump has done to our brothers and sisters to the north. Our household is a moderate visitor to Canada and bring our money there to spend to help the local economy. This year it was BC and Ontario. Last year it was big spending in Quebec and Alberta. I'm sorry for what our idiot president is doing to your country, and I'm using my vote to combat his actions.

[–] TheReanuKeeves@lemmy.world 2 points 18 hours ago

Most people understand most Americans don't want this as much if not more than we do. We're just disappointed. Not in individuals but more the system that allows this to happen.

[–] lennybird@lemmy.world 16 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I'll tell you after tonight. Last year's Halloween was more subdued than previous 2 years under Biden. Lots of candy left on shelves, not as many lights in our area. I don't expect as many trick-or-treaters but we'll see. Of course this isn't the only recession indicator.

As for where I'm from originally and which has voted Trump loyally every election cycle, they are just increasingly going down the shitter. Rust, bible belt, etc. The pain a lot of these people feel is genuine -- they're just too "poorly educated" to know who's screwing them over the most.

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[–] MrOtingocni@lemmy.world 12 points 1 day ago

I can't tell. I've always been dirt poor.

Grocery prices are up about %15. And discounts are stingier.

In the last 10 years the costs of houses in the area for sale have tripled, so that's something, but that is expected to come down soon. Renting is pretty overpriced.

It's slower than usual at work but not by a terrible amount. The company renting some of our warehouse space just laid off their entire staff and halted operations. They were kind of jank, though, so no big surprise.

Other than that things seem to be sluggishly grinding along. Nobody seems particularly happy about anything, as if there's a malaise drifting in the air, but nobody I know is skipping meals or getting evicted.

[–] justOnePersistentKbinPlease@fedia.io 9 points 1 day ago (3 children)

Vancouver, Canada: People are of course worried about the US having returned to it trying to conquer and subjugate us again, and global warming casts an increasingly looming shadow. But the US utterly failed to split off Alberta, Quebec is showing no interest in it either and Carney is mostly doing a good job so there is still increasing hope.

Gas prices are still punitive in Vancouver, but that has been the case since we stood up for ourselves against having a pipeline to nowhere shoved up our ass, so we're used to that now. We havent seen the crazy increase other places have other than in diesel because China is buying it all to keep their prices down.

Food prices are only bad if you shop at the big supermarkets. If you shop at farmers markets or small locals, prices have stayed relatively steady.

Job wise market is looking very strong. A few years back, most of the posts I saw were international or fraud reposts, but more and more in the last 18 months have been local growth, with larger compensation as well for the most part.

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[–] Crankenstein@lemmy.world 4 points 1 day ago

Rural US South with no chance of escaping.

Every day I curse the fact I didn't die in my sleep.

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