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My how fast the AI tech bros move to protect corporations but don't move to protect the average coder, artists, writers.

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[–] kestrel7_7@lemmy.world 15 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

AI finally comes up with something I would use it for, and so of course they have to lock it down. Ha! Fuck these clowns.

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[–] ParadoxSeahorse@lemmy.world 126 points 1 day ago (3 children)

This is part of the reason they don’t want anyone running models locally offline, the models and their entire business are commoditized

[–] hunnybubny@discuss.tchncs.de 39 points 22 hours ago* (last edited 22 hours ago) (2 children)
  1. LLM bubble pops.
  2. Market gets flooded with $200b worth of hardware (this is how much is not used to Zitrons knowledge).
  3. ???
  4. Subscription based LLM gets cooked.
[–] Tollana1234567@lemmy.today 7 points 12 hours ago (7 children)

hardware that people cant USE, they are solely used for AI in those datacenters, its just going to be e-waste.

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[–] anon_8675309@lemmy.world 30 points 20 hours ago (6 children)

Government bales out AI companies and the bill they write to do it will make local LLMs illegal.

[–] SpaghettiMaster@feddit.uk 5 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

Piracy is illegal and they are of course doing a great job at stopping that...

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[–] TiredDinoByte@lemmy.today 10 points 19 hours ago (2 children)

I think you are right, but that seems VERY unenforceable.

[–] willington@lemmy.dbzer0.com 12 points 17 hours ago

Successful enforcement doesn't look like catching every pivate LLM owner.

[–] heartSagan5@lemmy.zip 5 points 18 hours ago (1 children)

Except the people I hear running “local models” report a lot of hardware, like a half dozen graphics cards. The common person is screwed, they have a smartphone.

[–] SupraMario@lemmy.world 5 points 17 hours ago (4 children)

Two or three years ago sure. Now...not even close. Tons of models run on basically shit now. Especially with MOEs. I run new lightweight models on an i9 and 64gb of ddr4 ram with a 4gb quadro card...in a laptop from 19'.

I think this is why a lot of these tech bros are saying silly shit about suggesting people need to rent from them. That's their entire shtick. Otherwise they got nothing else.

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[–] willington@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 17 hours ago (1 children)
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[–] Tattorack@lemmy.world 14 points 23 hours ago

Those poor billionaire corpos! Why won't somebody think of the poor billionaire corpos!?

[–] Darkard@lemmy.world 385 points 1 day ago (2 children)

The "There's no way we can stop our agents from going rogue" people, suddenly have a burst of ability to reign in their creation when it suits their interests.

Funny that.....

[–] takeda@lemmy.dbzer0.com 77 points 1 day ago (13 children)

Does anyone think that perhaps what they are afraid is that source code of such clone would be compared to the original and show evidence that maybe the model was already trained on the code of the game?

[–] MoogleMaestro@lemmy.zip 56 points 1 day ago (2 children)

I think this is definitely a concern, yes.

I think it's very likely that these models are effectively being tricked into retrieving source code of projects from memory of seeing the actual source code in the biases. This is why some project are much easier to uncover than others.

[–] abadidonque@feddit.uk 21 points 22 hours ago (1 children)

I'm no expert, but if my understanding of LLMs as 'probability calculators' is correct, then if you prompted one properly to produce code which does x (a Photoshop function for example) and it had only been trained on one example of this (the Photoshop source code) it would reproduce the PS source code because that has the highest probability of that being the correct 'answer'.

[–] Kichae@piefed.ca 6 points 17 hours ago

This is baasically correct, though what the models actually produce is a little more randomized than that. Though, if there aren't any words that are anywhere cllose to being likely to follow next, then there won't be a any other valid options to choose.

[–] CIA_chatbot@lemmy.world 37 points 1 day ago (1 children)

They aren’t being tricked. They are doing exactly what they were designed to do

[–] MoogleMaestro@lemmy.zip 4 points 13 hours ago

Fair fair. Ih suppose what I mean is that it's not really reverse engineering so much as it is recollecting from training samples.

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[–] jaykrown@lemmy.world 35 points 21 hours ago

This is what winning the AI race looks like.

[–] uuj8za@piefed.social 132 points 1 day ago (2 children)

The purpose of Al is to allow wealth to access skill while removing from the skilled the ability to access wealth.

[–] some_designer_dude@lemmy.world 46 points 1 day ago (1 children)

The purpose of capitalism…

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[–] artifex@lemmy.zip 162 points 1 day ago (3 children)

So they took out two of the most useful things that LLMs can do.

[–] DandomRude@lemmy.world 145 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Yes, apparently they’re suddenly worried that stealing other people’s work—which is their business model—might backfire on them. I assume this is a measure intended to give the impression—in the face of one of the countless lawsuits against Anthropic—that they’re actually taking licensing or intellectual property rights seriously. I can’t think of any other explanation, because Anthropic simply can’t afford to have questions raised about where the training data used by their models actually comes from.

[–] zarathustrad@lemmy.world 26 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Pulling up the stolen ladder before anyone can steal it to use to steal more stuff while it's still enforceable to do so.

Mabey just make all ladders illegal, unless you have a government contracted monopoly.

The entire idea of copyright is going to be tested at many levels, and most people don't even understand why yet.

Interesting times.

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[–] damnthefilibuster@lemmy.world 71 points 1 day ago (7 children)

No, they just enabled Chinese LLMs to be the forefront of reverse engineering. Because people will do what they want to do.

[–] TheFogan@programming.dev 36 points 1 day ago (6 children)

No, they just enabled Chinese LLMs to be the forefront of reverse engineering. Because people will do what they want to do.

Their goal is simple... everything they are doing right now is striving to make the US ban individual hardware.

Chinese models are open, anyone can get them... stopping the flow of data on private computers is impossible. Hardware however is getting more expensive, hardware manufacturers are already deciding to move out of the consumer market on their own. The US government is already establishing laws to prevent shipping foreign hardware into the country.

Altman's giving the game away when he does this "it's so sad that all this ram is sitting around in people's home computers unappreciated when it could do so much more in a data center".

The idea is to sell the message "AI is out of the bag, and it's world ending technology. Basically they are going to imply that the guardrails in their data centers are the only thing that's preventing all AIs from destroying the software industry, and teaching teenagers to build bombs and hacking the CIA, and the only possible response would be to stop all direct to consumer hardware sales with anything more than the bare minimum needed to stream a PC out of a data center.

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[–] panda_abyss@lemmy.ca 67 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (3 children)

Yeah, I tried asking it how to flash a modded tv webOS and it flagged the chat.

I asked it to fuzz my own code (a jwt integration) and it flagged the chat. There was an unbounded buffer that could have been exploited, but it’s happy to hide that since I’m not a large corpo.

Honestly the shit Claude does is unusable anymore. It’s developed a habit of dropping requirements when problems are hard now.

ETA: Chinese models and Mistral were happy to help. I discovered I could use eMuhdra against an iot device in my house that way, I found various input errors, these things have improved my security so much more than they create risks.

[–] SHY_TUCKER@lemmy.ml 2 points 13 hours ago (2 children)

I am a hard worker and workaholic. Is it just me or does Claude try talking you out of doing stuff? It will be like 10am and Claude/opus will try this: "great session , you deserve some rest, go enjoy your family and we'll come back to it tomorrow, have a good night Wut?

[–] panda_abyss@lemmy.ca 1 points 7 hours ago

I’ve never had that happen.

For me it just pretends it did something fully and drops requirements.

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[–] dgriffith@aussie.zone 23 points 1 day ago (3 children)

I work with embedded devices that use canbus. Last week it was happy to read the manufacturer's published .DCF files for a couple of joystick panel interface boards. Not anymore, conversation flagged and halted any time I get near them.

Claude. You can download these files from the manufacturer's website. They only describe how analog and digital inputs get converted into canbus packets. I am not trying to hack Adobe here. Nope.

Oh well, DeepSeek, Mistral, GLM, Beam et. al. are all happy to read these files and continue work on the project. Anthropic's usefulness to me has ended, it was nice while it lasted.

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[–] makeshift0546@lemmy.today 24 points 1 day ago

I’ll use whatever fucking model does the job for me. If that’s some Chinese shit run on bedrock so be it.

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