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[–] FlashMobOfOne@lemmy.world 4 points 37 minutes ago

I use a visualization technique, and this'll probably sound dumb, but it works for me. Try it.

When I have an intrusive thought, I visualize it being consumed in a mushroom cloud and mutter "boom" a few times. There's something about the combination of the visualization and vocalization that makes the intrusive thought go away.

I have no idea how or why it works. It just does.

[–] Widdershins@lemmy.world 1 points 8 minutes ago

I have a cat or two that purr a lot. I do not care for sound machines but purr machines are great.

[–] JoeKrogan@lemmy.world 1 points 3 minutes ago

Melatonin helps me but i usually only take it to get into a pattern again

[–] SubArcticTundra@lemmy.ml 2 points 39 minutes ago

You know how easy it is ti doze of to voices talking around a campfire? Put some monotonous voices like that on in the bacjground

[–] foliumcreations@lemmy.world 6 points 1 hour ago

Late to the party, have a very good suggestion.

Some very very short back story. In my younger years I had a lot of issues with anxiety when going to bed. Thinking about things I needed to fix or what tommorow would bring. And I realised that imagining a story or a world and setting specific foundational points, like a framework that a story as an example could be worked from. Then each night building something additional on that framework every night in my mind, keeping the core fixed and every new addition as part of this world or story. I would eventually get less and less added and become relaxed and fall a sleep sooner and sooner.

Just like a child wanting the same story every night.

Going back to something known and adding just a little bit och playing with an idea within the set framework is soothing for the mind. Because it familiar.

[–] GrantUsEyes@lemmy.zip 1 points 27 minutes ago* (last edited 26 minutes ago)

Weed has managed to bring me back from the brinks of madness without ill effects if I consume edibles. It's not the best sleep quality but any sleep helps.

[–] FRYD@lemmy.blahaj.zone 5 points 1 hour ago* (last edited 1 hour ago)

I close my eyes and do the “four corners”technique or whatever it’s called. inhale for 4 seconds, hold for 4 seconds, exhale for 4 seconds, hold for 4 seconds, repeat. It eventually lowers your heart rate, increases CO2 in the blood and clears your thoughts. It’s much easier to sleep after doing that for like 20 mins.

[–] NotAnOtter@lemmus.org 3 points 1 hour ago
  • Hydrate
  • Eat
  • A meditative exercise where you lay still and imagine your toes being pulled down. Like as if gravity got 10x heavier at your toes pushing them down. Then your fee, ankles, knees, legs, etc. up to your head. It should last 3-5 minutes and at worst it's very calming
[–] tuckerm@feddit.online 2 points 59 minutes ago
  1. Instrumental album
  2. Broski or TheoryFighter talking about fighting game mechanics (I don't know why, but if it works, it works!). Just be sure to turn off autoplay so you don't get jolted awake by someone else's Youtube intro.
[–] sunsofold@lemmy.zip 4 points 1 hour ago

You can try fantasizing, which I was told primes the brain to dream, though I don't know how supported that is. The big thing is to not stress about not being 'asleep' too much. You need 8 hours of contiguous rest but it doesn't all have to be deep sleep. You can lay in the dark for an hour with your eyes closed and it will be better than not. Stressing about being awake is worse than not resting at all.

[–] the_Interceptor@lemmus.org 9 points 2 hours ago (3 children)

When I can't sleep I play the "alphabet game" in my head: I pick a random subject. Can be anything really, doesn't have to be something I am an expert in. The other night it was "things associated with either the Commodore 64 or the Amiga". Then I think about a fitting thing for each letter of the alphabet, from A to Z.

Sounds weird, but it works for me 99% of the time. I actually made it to Z without falling asleep only once in my whole life. In that case you can still pick a new subject and start again at A.

Keeps your head occupied in a good way.

[–] paulzy@lemmy.world 1 points 46 minutes ago

I do this thing recently when I think of a random 1 syllable word, then think of one that goes with it. “Yard - Sale…. Ice - Pick”. I think a similar muscle is being flexed but I don’t get into any kind of narrative.

[–] crenquis@lemmy.today 2 points 1 hour ago

My friend's wife does that, but just chooses a random word for each letter (no theme).

[–] TrickDacy@lemmy.world 2 points 1 hour ago

I could see that working. I used to do the old trick of counting sheep. I imagine each sheep running then jumping a fence. Probably never made it very far past 20.

[–] Toes@ani.social 2 points 1 hour ago

Go for a hike before bed. Allocate a few hours so you can get cleaned up after, once you get comfortable with the timing you can adjust. (My hikes are about an hour)

Ensure you're in bed with your eyes closed a minimum of 9 hours before you need to be awake.

I find listening to music helps drown out my repetitive thoughts.

[–] Steve@startrek.website 1 points 53 minutes ago
[–] rowansprig@leminal.space 4 points 1 hour ago

It really depends what the root cause of your wakefulness is. Like, if it's chemical, i.e. you had too much coffee etc - you're probably stuck.

But if it's because of stress you can probably do some things to get relaxed.

My major tip is, NEVER look at the time. It'll stress you out. And small periods of sleep are far more restful than you worry they will be.

[–] silentjohn@lemmy.ml 6 points 2 hours ago

I read for an hour in bed every night. That gets me very tired and sleepy. People are just in front of screens all damn day and don't know how to turn off.

If I wake up and can't fall back asleep, I keep melatonin next to me. If I really want to sleep well I'll take 10mg edible ~1 hour before bed.

[–] BobLunch@lemmy.today 4 points 2 hours ago

Melatonin - it exists in your body naturally, so I wouldn't really consider it a pharmaceutical aid. 5mg usually does the trick for me.

Also, tension tamer tea. It comes in a box with a dragon on the side (hell yeah). One cup will put me right to sleep.

[–] rumschlumpel@feddit.org 33 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

That's the neat thing, you don't.

[–] TheReanuKeeves@lemmy.world 19 points 4 hours ago

I've been doing it right all along!

[–] palordrolap@fedia.io 3 points 2 hours ago

(Caveat: I'm currently on medication that helps with getting off to sleep, and might also be helping me with anxiety/depression, but it's really hard to gauge that side of it. Anyway, sometimes I try these if the effects are wearing off in a morning and my mind starts spinning, and used to use them before being on the medication at night too.)

Breathing exercises sometimes work. The old deep breath, hold for a little too long and then let it go in a measured manner. Two or three cycles and then relaxing / applying some or all of the following might work.

Other times, telling myself that what I'm thinking about can wait until morning / later, basically trying to trigger "save and quit" in my brain. I got quite good at that before the change of medication.

Another weird trick is to convince myself that the room is the other way up and if I don't relax and sink into the sheets and mattress that I'll fall away from the bed onto the ceiling. I know this doesn't make any kind of sense. File it under "so stupid it works (sometimes)".

Practically speaking, try not to be too warm or too cold. A surefire way for me to not fall asleep is to have cold feet. I might not even realise that my feet are cold until I think about it. An electric (under-)blanket that warms both body and feet has proven invaluable, as did the hot water bottle that preceded it.

Finally, if none of these work, get up and do something to distract yourself for a while. Plan to get back in bed 10-15 minutes before a multiple of 90 minutes before the time you've set your alarm. Hopefully, you'll be tired enough to sleep before 105 minutes (15+90) to go, because that's basically the last chance for meaningful rest. Anything less is a short nap and you'll probably be groggy when you wake up.

The next advice you need to seek is how to wake up when you're tired and/or groggy.

[–] susieq0044@sh.itjust.works 4 points 2 hours ago* (last edited 2 hours ago) (1 children)

First, no smartphone in your bedroom EVER. No alcohol before bedtime. Read a book with little action (Jane Austin, Jules Verne, old books do wonders …). Then turn out the light. Find a comfortable position, find the muscles that are tense and relax them. Don’t move anymore. Then count up 1,2,3,4,5… when thoughts pop into you head, start from 0 again.

[–] TrickDacy@lemmy.world 2 points 1 hour ago

People say this about smartphones and maybe it's true for many people, but for me I have fallen asleep while reading or scrolling countless times. It usually feels like the phone helps me wind down and get sleepier.

[–] ChristerMLB@piefed.social 5 points 3 hours ago* (last edited 3 hours ago)

If my mind is racing, I will get up and just write about it until it stops racing. Usually that's when I've made some kind of plan to address what my mind so busy processing.

If I just can't sleep for some unexplained reason, I will get up, bring my duvet to the living room and read comics for a while.

Other than that, I try not to eat too late, and I will usually read in bed. Back when I had my Fitbit it said I averaged about 7h30m sleep a night. I also have a daylight lamp that I use in the morning during the dark half of the year.

[–] Elting@piefed.social 26 points 4 hours ago

Meditation, masturbation and moderation. The last one is the most important, a well habituated bedtime will help you sleep better.

[–] neidu4@piefed.social 4 points 3 hours ago

A podcast that is interesting enough for me to not get bored out of my mind, but not too interesting; I want to be able to let my thoughts wander a bit.

An audio book also works, but it can be problematic in the sense that you often f8nd yourself rewinding if/when you lose track. It still works, but it takes a bit lower.

[–] ccunning@lemmy.world 19 points 4 hours ago

When I can’t fall asleep it’s usually because my mind is racing and worrying about things so I just put on a podcast that’s only mildly interesting enough to distract me but not get me fully engaged.

[–] cazg@lemmy.zip 9 points 4 hours ago

As some others said get one of those "soft storm" or "sea sound" 10 hour tracks (whatever you prefer) and put it.

Then go to the bed, take a warm shower before if you want, and then start reading this book

I'll give you 10 minutes maximum, bonus points if English is not your primary language

[–] mimic_kry@sh.itjust.works 7 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

One unhealthy but guaranteed to work remedy:

One or two handles of your favorite liquor.

Warning: sleep quality will be ass. You won't feel better, but often worse. May induce vomiting, random urination, and depression. May also lead to liver failure or alcohol poisoning. Or death. May cause reliance/addiction to alcohol. Results may vary.

[–] TrickDacy@lemmy.world 3 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

Two handles? A third of one and my head is absolutely pounding for hours the next day. Two handles sounds like a fairly likely chance you won't wake up.

[–] mimic_kry@sh.itjust.works 3 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

I was (and still struggling with it) an alcoholic for a while. 2 handles is a joke amount, yeah I'd normally go for a third or so.

Still wouldn't recommend it though lol

[–] TrickDacy@lemmy.world 2 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

Haha alright. I wish you luck with that struggle. Sometimes I wonder if I have a problem myself.

[–] mimic_kry@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

Thank you. If you ever feel like you do, talk to someone about it. Anyone, preferably one you trust.

Best of luck to you as well, friend

[–] TrickDacy@lemmy.world 2 points 1 hour ago

I appreciate that.

[–] Multiplexer@discuss.tchncs.de 12 points 4 hours ago* (last edited 4 hours ago) (2 children)

Listening to recorded rain sounds.

Alternatively: Industrial Thrash Metal.

[–] serpineslair@lemmy.world 3 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

Nice! Trad or stoner doom also does the trick!

[–] Multiplexer@discuss.tchncs.de 2 points 2 hours ago

One would think so, but for me, I noticed that it works best with the insanely fast pace.
My brain desperately tries too follow the rythm but is soon completely overwelmed by the galloping double-base and just gives up trying to pay attention to anything, while the music begins to mentally blend into a sort of highly structured noise, finally covering your thoughts on the way to sleep.

[–] JohnnyEnzyme@piefed.social 5 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

There are some online sites in which one can press switches to turn on & off nature sound loops to create a personal mix. I can't seem to find the one I used to use, but here's something adjacent:

https://mynoise.net/noiseMachines.php

[–] Multiplexer@discuss.tchncs.de 2 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

l once had an app doing that, but nowadays just use a suitable youtube music stream instead.

[–] JohnnyEnzyme@piefed.social 2 points 2 hours ago

Well if it works, it works, n'est ce pas?

I do however have a penchant for programmable loops. Dunno why I stopped listening to those...

[–] theherk@lemmy.world 9 points 4 hours ago

Keeping a good sleep schedule is 95% of the game. The last 5% is masturbation and maybe some audio that does not demand your attention at all.

[–] MantisToboggon@lemmy.world 9 points 4 hours ago
[–] victorz@lemmy.world 3 points 3 hours ago

I just close my eyes until I fall asleep. Eventually I'll get tired. I'm mostly halfway tired already anyway, as a father of two young boys.

[–] Lehmuusa@nord.pub 3 points 3 hours ago

You asked for no medical aid, but I will somewhat defy that because there's a medication that I find very good:

I like mirtazapin very much. Doctors often don't seem to know it, but that one works the better for falling asleep the less you take it! (Of course, if you take a ridiculously low, almoat homeopathic, dose, you'll of course get zero effect)

I usually take about one eighth of a pill at once. It causes me to fall asleep within about 15 minutes, then its effect disappears completely. That means, it's not a sleeping pill, only a pill for falling asleep. And it has no effect whatsoever on your tomorrow. Except that you will have slept enough.

[–] cobysev@lemmy.world 4 points 3 hours ago

I don't know your situation specifically, but as someone with PTSD who occasionally gets insomnia because of it, my lack of sleep comes from my brain getting too active in the night and not shutting up.

If I really need to sleep, I'll distract myself by pulling up my tablet and either idly browsing my news feed or reading some digital comics. Anything to get me focused on anything besides whatever topic my brain has decided to hyperfocus on that night.

After a bit, I'll put the tablet down and attempt to sleep right away. Usually it works, but if my mind switches back to it's worrying topics, I'll go back to the tablet and distract again.

Usually it doesn't take more than an hour to fall asleep like this. Not ideal if you need to sleep ASAP, but better than getting no sleep all night.

Find a lecture on something really boring. Bonus points if you learn through osmosis.

[–] HikingVet@lemmy.ca 3 points 3 hours ago

We were taught on basic how a meditation technique that you concentrate on relaxing your body a bit at a time. First with your feet then legs, arms and eventually your torso. The entire platoon was out cold before we got to our hands (according to the civilian instructor).

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