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And no, please dont suggest homeless shelters, those are just unsafe and very demoralizing.

The very first thing I looked for (and forgive me for this, this is gonna be a controvertial one here) is the military, because thats just what lots of reddit threads mentioned, and like it would be an immediate exit from a toxic household, and yes, that would mean enduring an institution thats also kinda toxic, but thats only a few years and you're free, and its much more predictable. Except they dont accept anyone with depression and you have to prove you're "fine" for probably 36 months to even get a waiver. So that's crossed off as an option.

Jobcorps, well thats for low income families, and being a dependent means your parents income is what counts so i dont qualify

Americorps NCCC, well that seems seasonal and the next thing doesnt start till like months later (not sure if I'm even reading the website correctly)

Ngl I lowkey just thought of enlisting so once I finish that, next time we meet, I could stand in front of my toxic brother just staring at him menacingly, like whatcha gonna do, fight with an ex-soldier? Not to mention the prestiege of veteran status. And btw its only 1% thats acrually ever gonna face real combat so its not like WW1&2 trench warfare, its mostly just logistics, and like a civillian job, you'd be contributing to shareholder value anyways so there isnt really much of a "moral highground" either way, except working a retail job or some shit is very demoralizing but military has the reverance. And also

But anyways I'm not eligible anytime soon anyways. I doubt I'm even "manly" enough for it.

~~Bruh idk what to do really, you know that one movie, Parasite where like they work in a rich person's mansion and that shit. I'm not a fan of rich people but like I lowkey wanna like just "housesitter" and chill in some nice mansion with great views, and maybe even find secrets and become a movie plot.~~ (edit: okay this part I'm half joking, its more like a fantasy daydream of "I get to be in a movie plot" probably unrealistic for someone that never been in proximity of high wealth)

I'm in Philly, PA btw.

(Also should I pack light with just a backpack and just one or two change of clothes and laundry often or just carry every clothing I could fit in a suitcase?)

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[–] myyass@lemmy.world 2 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

You probably could teach English in Korea. It's a bit of a cost upfront but you get a place covered and your investment of training will be paid off fairly quick. You don't even have to learn Korean. It's fairly cheap get by unless you're a booze hound like me.

[–] WongKaKui@piefed.ca 1 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

Yeah about that... I think basically most countries that are stable will require a college degree. South korea require a bachelors degree.

I looked into Taiwan and you still need at minimum an associates degree just to teach at private "cram schools"

Its kinda weird tho, they make you go through hoops but its still feels like a "gig" job what what I've read.

[–] myyass@lemmy.world 1 points 2 hours ago

So, I don't have the link on hand but there's two tiers. If you can speak, read, write you will get to teach regular schools. Then if you have a teaching degree, you get more money and you can teach in the I guess higher schools. I mean I plan to do this when I retire, if there's a world left lol

[–] SupraMario@lemmy.world 2 points 4 hours ago

Pick a trade at a community college and get to it.

Or go get a help desk job (as you said you want to do IT) and start learning on the job. Pay will be shit. Hours will be long, but you will learn and you will start networking and you can rise through the ranks. A lot of us who are making 6 figures started out doing help desk.

You gotta do your time in the trenches.

[–] wowbaggerip@lemmy.world 1 points 3 hours ago

Have you heard of WOOFing? You can get room and board at farms all over the world to go help out with their crops or whatever they need. It's not always farming and it's often a cool community!

[–] phailhaus@piefed.social 2 points 4 hours ago

There's an easy short-term answer: Temp agency. It's stressful because you don't know if you have work until the last minute and half your coworkers will be horrible, but it's work that requires nothing more than a pulse.

You could also see if the sports arenas are hiring. They may be mostly staffed for the season now, but they pull a lot of workers and tend to lose a good chunk each year. Best bet for stability would be kitchen, warehouse, etc since those work both between events and on event days.

[–] noli@lemmy.zip 1 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

In my experience garbage collection tends to pay very well relatively and requires no special education. It is taxing on the body though so not something for the long long term. Though this may be different in the US

[–] WongKaKui@piefed.ca 0 points 4 hours ago

Yay, getting poked by random drug needles sounds fun! I love Philly!

But serious tho, I rather do retail and have a face off with a "karen" than doing that

[–] GreenKnight23@lemmy.world 10 points 9 hours ago

look at getting a job on a shipping barge if you can. there's all sorts of support staff like medics, cooks, IT, etc, that work on barges. you'll get to travel around the world, "free" room and board, and you're paid quite well since you can't leave once you're on deck.

[–] Necrifyre@piefed.blahaj.zone 1 points 5 hours ago

Got a bank? Pull out a personal loan. Just gotta make sure you've got a job at all to pay it off once you make that kind of a leap.

[–] BobLunch@lemmy.today 14 points 11 hours ago* (last edited 11 hours ago)

Have you looked into working with the National Parks? A lot of their entry level positions only require a HS level education, and many parks offer employee housing. I've heard it's quite competitive (both for jobs and for housing) but it's still worth considering. State parks, DNR, BLM, etc. might be an option too depending on where you live.

[–] baahb@lemmy.dbzer0.com 21 points 13 hours ago* (last edited 13 hours ago) (5 children)

Dunno how to give you advice. "Want out immediately, but not so immediately as to be homeless" and "military is kinda appealing, but there might be a waitlist if you have depression." And "I dont want to do demeaning minimum wage jobs" all kinda conflict with one another. Also, the fuck you worrying about prestige for? That's ridiculous, either get in the house or get out. Prestige ain't got shit to do with it.

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[–] FRYD@lemmy.blahaj.zone 7 points 10 hours ago

Postal service is a bit of a slower option. It takes at most, two years of part time work to get a full time job, but that full time job can afford rent in cheaper areas and you can transfer anywhere in the country with no pay cut.

[–] Mantzy81@aussie.zone 9 points 10 hours ago (5 children)

From reading your responses, I don't think you should concentrate on moving out. Take the opportunities your privilege allows (e.g. having shelter and food) to work on yourself from that safe location. I would go to therapy and discover why youre feeling like this and in the meantime, do some work in a store or something. It's menial, sure, but it's something. If you feel like it, you can give your folks some money to feel like you're contributing.

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[–] chunes@lemmy.world 15 points 13 hours ago* (last edited 12 hours ago) (1 children)

You could look into WWOOFing. Basically participating owners of small farms provide you 3 meals a day and a place to sleep in return for helping out about half of every day. Seems like a decent option until you can get your feet under you, and would afford you enough time (the second half of the day) to figure that out.

Granted, in the winter you'll have fewer options (animals and greenhouses mostly).

[–] AskewLord@piefed.social 5 points 12 hours ago* (last edited 12 hours ago) (1 children)

WOOFing is for rich college kids who have a nice home to go back to after their 'adventure', not GED holders who need to work to support themselves.

[–] schipelblorp@sh.itjust.works 2 points 9 hours ago* (last edited 9 hours ago)

Why? It seems like a lot of farms just love free labor, but, sure, I don't doubt there's some implicit classism there. Get dreaklocks, a tatoo, and a septum ring and you might be passable without a college degree.

[–] HubertManne@piefed.social 4 points 9 hours ago (2 children)

can you take some community college and are you ok with blood. phlebotomy is one course and you can make above minimum wage within a thing that limits the applicant pool. if you take a few more courses they will generally pay you a bit better and you could use that as a springboard toward nursing.

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[–] g8phcon2@k.fe.derate.me 4 points 10 hours ago

Except they don't accept anyone with depression, and you have to prove you're "fine" for probably 36 months to even get a waiver.

Seeing how many soldiers commit suicide, 36 months might be too short to waiver out depressed service members. https://www.bu.edu/articles/2024/suicide-now-the-primary-cause-of-death-among-active-duty-us-soldiers/

[–] bitofarambler@crazypeople.online 6 points 12 hours ago* (last edited 8 hours ago) (1 children)

hey there, i've been traveling for 15 years and taught for 7, teaching English abroad seems to fit what you're looking for.

jobs are available today in dozens of countries, several of them have no requirement other than being a native English speaker, ~25 working hours per week, it's very cheap to live abroad, so even if you're making a thousand usd equivalent a month(starting without any degree, accreditation or experience), you can still begin saving money, and since you mentioned prestige, teachers are highly respected everywhere I've been.

especially if you have no idea what you want to do, but you need to move out, get your own place and start saving money immediately, there are over a billion esl students looking for a teacher. Every month you spend teaching is valuable work experience, you can get a lifetime TEFL(teaching english as a foreign language) accreditation in a couple of weeks with a self-directed pdf course that will raise your salary and negotiating power.

if you're interested, feel free to ask questions here or in the travel community, i taught abroad for several years, retired and have been traveling ever since.

if you're lucky enough to be a fluent english speaker, it's a very low-barrier, high-reward job.

oh, and packing light is the way to go.

[–] BobLunch@lemmy.today 5 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

Before considering this option, OP, you should listen to accounts of people who have actually done it (good and bad). Some people have had absolute NIGHTMARE experiences, like getting trapped in their host country and unable to quit because their employer refuses to give back their passport or other documents. And while I'm no expert, I would say that any company willing to hire teachers with only a GED/HS diploma is worth raising an eyebrow at.

Some people have amazing experiences teaching abroad - I don't want to make it sound all bad! It sounds like you had a great experience and I definitely don't mean to knock that. But it's worth noting there are a fair few sketchy players in the game, and it's important that OP does heavy heavy research as the consequences of getting involved with one of these companies can be dire.

[–] bitofarambler@crazypeople.online 4 points 11 hours ago* (last edited 8 hours ago) (1 children)

OP, you should listen to accounts of people who have actually done it

that's me. i taught english abroad(for ~7 years) starting with zero experience or accreditation, ended up running two schools before retiring, hired and helped people move abroad, and I'm still traveling 15 years later.

the "sketchy players" in education are, in theory, the same concentration whether you're a lawyer, flipping burgers, or teaching english, although because the demand is so much higher for english teachers than other professionals, the risk for an english teacher is lower.

[–] BobLunch@lemmy.today 3 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

Like I said, I don't mean to deny your positive experience, nor suggest that someone can't have a positive experience teaching abroad. I've heard a lot of genuinely good experiences. But the consequences of working for a bad employer abroad can truly mess up your life in a way that flipping burgers in Fresno or filing legal paperwork in St. Louis just can't, no matter how terrible the employees are stateside. Burger King can't hold your passport hostage.

I also think OP's mental health status shouldn't be discounted here. A lot of the negative experiences I've heard are related to loneliness and mental struggles working abroad, especially in countries where English-speaking mental healthcare is lacking or absent entirely. It's one thing to be depressed, young, and isolated in your home country. It's a whole different beast to be depressed, young, and isolated in a country where you don't even speak the local language, and where the closest familiar face is several thousand miles away.

I feel the need to reiterate again that this isn't everyone's experience, just that working abroad is a huge commitment and needs to be considered from every angle. I'm glad you're here to share a positive perspective!

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[–] schipelblorp@sh.itjust.works 7 points 12 hours ago (2 children)

At this point, the question isn't if the military will take you w/ a history of depression, but whether they a would put you in a situation where you'd want to kill yourself.

I'd say if you're in a hurry, retail while you live in a car until you can find a roommate situation. While you're in your car, apply for homeless assistance, and you might land a private room in a shelter eventually, which is way cooler than the open barracks of emergency shelters.

[–] mrmaplebar@fedia.io 7 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

Yeah... I had a friend in highschool who went down the path of not knowing what to do with himself, enlisting in the military, and ultimately ending his own life. I only found out years later so I'm not sure of the circumstances that lead him to it, or even if his time in the army contributed to his feelings. But it's very sad, either way.

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[–] WongKaKui@piefed.ca 6 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

I dont own a car

I have access to cars, but those are my parents, its not like they're gonna let me have one, they need it for work and transporting tools and stuff, so I might be able to borrow them temporary at most.

But I dont have a drivers license

[–] g8phcon2@k.fe.derate.me 6 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

Why don't you have a driver's license? I suspect there are some bigger issues at play here.

[–] WongKaKui@piefed.ca 3 points 11 hours ago (2 children)

Um... I never got one. 👀

Just the um "yeah I'mma get a drivers license some day"...

a few years later

...

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[–] DudeImMacGyver@kbin.earth 3 points 10 hours ago

You could enroll in college and get loans to pay for a dorm, but 2weeks is short notice and a degree is no guarantee of success. They can definitely help though, and it's good to have a well rounded education not to mention networking opportunities.

If you don't have to move out, consider staying though. You could always start with a community college or trade school while you stay.

[–] justdaveisfine@piefed.social 5 points 12 hours ago

If you're handy, some apartment/condos offer a discount on living at the location while you work there, such as doing maintenance or groundskeeping or such.

Doing maintenance isn't a glamorous job, and you'd likely be on call, but its a living and does have some career progression.

[–] n7gifmdn@lemmy.ca 6 points 12 hours ago (7 children)

Why do you need to move out? The lack of multigenerational homes is one of the reasons that Americans are so much in debt and have so little freedom despite having the largest economy in the world.

Save as much money as you can. If you can't stay with your nuclear family, find somewhere else you can. Living on your own is a really bad idea at least until you are married and have saved up enough for a 20% down payment on a house AND at least six months of living expenses. Otherwise you are just going to live the rest of your life as a slave to debt.

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[–] NotAnOtter@lemmus.org 1 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

Ok I know this really isn't what you're after, but have you considered taking 6 months to hike a long distance trail such as the AT or PCT? It only costs a few thousand for all the gear and permits and gets you out on your own for a good many months. Along the way you will develop survival and social skills which may find you in a better paying job. And for your dickhead brother, you could brag about that journey.

[–] schipelblorp@sh.itjust.works 2 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

A few thousand? I bet you could cut it down a lot more than that.In good weather, you just need a tarp to keep dry in the rain. You just really need food, and armies used to march on hard tack for months. Bring some multivitamins and some protein source (peanuts?) and I think you'd probably be ok? [Source: Thinking but not doing, feel free to correct.]

And if you're just avoiding reality, you don't need to travel 20 miles a day, so you don't need expensive boots, doubly so if you're travelling light.

[–] NotAnOtter@lemmus.org 2 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

I mean, in theory, I think you're right. But while a $200 build out is possible & miserable, a $2000 build out can be something actually enjoyable.

Also, you should always keep some escape money in case you get injured and need a hotel for a night or two. Even for things like hard tack, while technically possible I guess, you would still need some mechanism to make hard tack at scale. I would not encourage this option for people that aren't able to dedicate $3k-$5k for all gear/food/permits/hotels/etc.

[–] schipelblorp@sh.itjust.works 2 points 9 hours ago* (last edited 9 hours ago) (1 children)

Hard tack is just flour mixed with water baked into an oven until it's dry. Easy enough to make at home, but you'd have to carry it, and if you wanted to make it on the trail, you'd have to carry a pan and the flour and the water and hope you can get some firewood.

I still think your $2,000 price point is past the point of comfort and into luxury for fair weather camping, but I haven't priced anything out in a while. I think I got a decent pack for $200, boots for $150, bag for about $100, tent $300. Water filter. I don't want to bother with cooking, so I never bought any cooking equipment.

And if you're just trying to get out of a depressing and abusive household, holing up in a tent with a book until the rain ends is an improvement; dang, I do want some rain gear, though.

What are these permits? When I was looking into the AT, there were designated camping areas which maybe you could reserve or occupy, but there were stretches of trail which were just designated as "go ahead and camp anywhere around here."

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[–] cattywampas@lemmy.world 6 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

Food service or retail. Two fields that are always hiring.

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