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cross-posted from: https://lemmy.world/post/30989415

Texas lawmakers trying to muzzle campus protests have just passed one of the most ridiculous anti-speech laws in the country. If signed by Gov. Greg Abbott, Senate Bill 2972 would ban speech at night — from study groups to newspaper reporting — at public universities in the state.

Ironically, the bill builds on a previous law passed in 2019 meant to enshrine free speech on Texas campuses. But now, lawmakers want to crack down on college students’ pro-Palestinian protests so badly that they literally passed a prohibition on talking.

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[–] pelespirit@sh.itjust.works 30 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Update: This article was published on June 5. Since then, Gov. Greg Abbott has signed Senate Bill 2972 into law. It will take effect Sept. 1.

[–] Viking_Hippie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 16 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Wow. So they actually went through with the lunacy 🤦

[–] LifeInMultipleChoice@lemmy.world 7 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Yeah, I saw it on the update they put in the post when I pulled it up on archive to get passed the subscription requirement. It's crazy that anyone could think a law like that should pass anywhere.

Crazy is the word, yeah. If anybody tells you that zionism and MAGA aren't cults, you can point to this as a stellar example of how the programming has melted away any resemblance of sanity.

[–] LifeInMultipleChoice@lemmy.world 10 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Thanks, adding to OP 🫶

[–] SonOfAntenora@lemmy.world 33 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (1 children)

What an absolute madness

" The overnight ban on expressive activities is unfathomably broad. Off the top of our heads, here are just a few examples of what such a policy would prohibit on campus between 10 p.m. to 8 a.m.: Meeting with other students to socialize or study, writing an email, working on a research paper, posting on social media, reporting for the student newspaper, wearing a T-shirt with a slogan, dancing, playing music, painting a picture, or praying at a sunrise service. "

I can hear them hurrying with a text that prevents any sort of protest, they came up with this.

[–] Viking_Hippie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 25 points 3 days ago (4 children)

So basically sleeping and silently staring at the walls will be the nightlife options at Texas universities.

What is this, BYU?

[–] Witchfire@lemmy.world 8 points 2 days ago

Every day is ten steps closer to Gilead

[–] Narauko@lemmy.world 8 points 2 days ago

It's even worse, BYU at least has Soaking^TM happening after dark.

[–] Hupf@feddit.org 2 points 2 days ago

Sounds like a good form of protest if done at the right locations and in sufficient numbers.

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[–] dhork@lemmy.world 196 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (5 children)

SB 2972 would require public universities in Texas to adopt policies prohibiting “engaging in expressive activities on campus between the hours of 10 p.m. and 8 a.m.” Expressive activity includes “any speech or expressive conduct” protected by the First Amendment or Texas Constitution.

Let's do the same thing with the second amendment and see how that goes over in Texas. "You have the right to bear arms, but not when you should be in bed...."

[–] IrateAnteater@sh.itjust.works 138 points 3 days ago (5 children)

How does a law explicitly interfering with first amendment rights not get immediately struck down as unconstitutional? Limiting free speech is not even an unintended theoretical side effect of the bill; it's the expressed purpose.

[–] halcyoncmdr@lemmy.world 71 points 3 days ago (1 children)

It still has to be passed before it can make it's way through the courts to strike it down. And then it depends on the clearly partisan judges in Texas.

[–] Corkyskog@sh.itjust.works 59 points 3 days ago (2 children)

The politicians who write these laws should be fined for wasting the taxpayers' money.

[–] chonkyninja@lemmy.world 46 points 3 days ago (3 children)

No they should be imprisoned for 90 days, second offense 2 years, 3rd offense 10 years, with no way to appeal.

[–] KnightontheSun@sh.itjust.works 27 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Immediately stripped of office for dereliction of duty to the American people. That's the first step. Fines or jail after, scaled appropriately to the attempted damage they're trying to cause.

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[–] dhork@lemmy.world 32 points 3 days ago (2 children)

The funny thing is, it was not explicitly clear at the time of the founding whether things like the First Amendment applied to States at all. After all, the Constitution applied to the Federal Government, and States had their own government....

.... Until after the Civil War, when the 14th amendment was ratified. You might be familiar with the 14th Amendment as it is the one that guarantees birthright citizenship. Well, that's just it's first sentence. The second sentence also guarantees all citizens the rights enumerated in the Constitution, making it clear that the States cannot abridge those rights.

But right now, the plain language of the 14th Amendment is under attack by Conservatives who claim that it all of a sudden does not cover people born here whose parents are not citizens. So as long as today's Conservatives will ignore one part of the 14th Amendment, why not ignore the rest and hope a captured SCOTUS makes it all hunky-dory after the fact!

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[–] Fedizen@lemmy.world 19 points 2 days ago

Republican Free Speech(tm)*

*terms and conditions apply

[–] krull_krull@lemmy.dbzer0.com 21 points 3 days ago (2 children)

Not even developing countries have such bullshit campus "laws", WTF is this shit?

[–] prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 18 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

It's called a fascist dictatorship. I don't think people realize that we're deep in this now. It's no longer nascent, "Ur-Fascism" as Eco described. This is full-on.

It's terrifying how many people appear to not be aware that this is even happening.

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[–] Tollana1234567@lemmy.today 6 points 2 days ago

texas, combining russia, and the taliban in one state.

[–] mfed1122@discuss.tchncs.de 114 points 3 days ago (4 children)

" a similar policy at Indiana University that required prior approval for protests on campus occurring between 11:00 p.m. and 6:00 a.m"

Kinda off topic but I think we need a different word for this kind of "protest". If you're gathering at a place chosen by the people you're protesting against, at a time chosen by the people you're protesting against, you aren't protesting. You're having a protest-roleplaying picnic

[–] Viking_Hippie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 52 points 3 days ago

It's the "free speech zones" of the Dubya days all over again 😮‍💨

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[–] West_of_West@piefed.social 45 points 3 days ago (3 children)

Y'all are speedrunning that antifreedom thing eh?

[–] Tollana1234567@lemmy.today 5 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

texas already beat the rest the usa by a decade already. they are a template of russia's governance.

[–] ameancow@lemmy.world 6 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

We would do well to remember that for every democracy that has fallen (and there have been a lot) they had a large segment of the population feverishly supporting the dictators as they burned down the centers of education and the constitutions that ran contrary to the regime's plans.

They are attempting this kind of overreach because there are people are supporting it. We have to fight these people.

Not with violence or weapons just yet, but with community action and spending our money more wisely. Get involved in your neighborhoods and city management meetings, get social even if you hate people, suck it up and hold some yard sales and bake sales, whatever else gets you talking to people in your immediate area. Start getting to know who your elected officials are and mount organized pressure on them to resist this fascist takeover.

We kick the base out from under this thing and it falls out. Stop fighting stupid, get off the internet, get off Lemmy where you get all your satisfaction looking at memes or fighting with other leftists. Stop buying new games and drugs and alcohol and doordash, hoard your money so the liches don't get it. Now IS the time.

[–] Njos2SQEZtPVRhH@piefed.social 18 points 3 days ago

If and when you're allowed to speak, you may speak freely. It's just that you're not allowed to speak. Rather than limiting 'freedom of speech' it's limiting 'speech'. So that's alright.

/s

[–] kreskin@lemmy.world 13 points 2 days ago

zionism is just flatly incompatible with American free speech. There will be a backlash to this overreach and I wouldnt want to be a zionist when it happens.

[–] dan1101@lemmy.world 20 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Free speech hours, what the actual fuck? Are the GOP alien lizards that need quiet time at night?

[–] Tollana1234567@lemmy.today 3 points 2 days ago

the zodiac killer, Reptilian cruz needs to shed his skin somehow, abbot lost his hamanity with his lower half.

[–] inclementimmigrant@lemmy.world 40 points 3 days ago (5 children)

I'd say that this is such a clear violation of the 1st amendment that it would be struck down quicker than Trump on a PDF File candidate but with all things given....

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[–] HubertManne@piefed.social 10 points 2 days ago (1 children)

This would not have flied in the catholic college I attended for two years. Heck it would have reduced academic performance. A whole lot of group study happens after 10pm. Some folks I know its the only time they studied snoozing through out the day between classes.

Wait till they realize facial expressions are in fact expressions.
"You're suspended"

Why?

"I saw a look on your face via the security footage when you were running to the bathroom trying not to piss yourself."

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[–] shittydwarf@sh.itjust.works 61 points 3 days ago (4 children)
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[–] captainlezbian@lemmy.world 40 points 3 days ago (2 children)

How do they expect people to get a degree if you cant stay up all night in a lab bashing 3 heads at a problem?

[–] kkj@lemmy.dbzer0.com 57 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Like many laws, it will be enforced only against speech they don't like. If you make it so that everyone is breaking laws at all times, you can target anyone you want with impunity while letting your friends run free.

[–] HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world 23 points 3 days ago (1 children)

or skin colors they don't like

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"It's legal if we like it." -- GOP, probably.

[–] finitebanjo@lemmy.world 22 points 3 days ago (2 children)

Sounds like it violates a couple of amendments, there.

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[–] EvilEdgelord@sh.itjust.works 48 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Okaaaay...we'll just do it in the daytime, where more people can witness it and more people can join us ✌️😂

GOP Congressmen are weak, ineffectual, inverse virtue signalers. We can't let them just hang around like the Confederates did after the Civil War, which is a big part of why we're back here again.

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[–] Mediocre_Bard@lemmy.world 11 points 3 days ago (1 children)

That ASL Elective is about to fill up.

[–] Soapbox@lemmy.zip 9 points 2 days ago

Sign language is still speech.

[–] Deflated0ne@lemmy.world 7 points 2 days ago

It'll take more than old Ironsides can muster to shut me up.

[–] possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip 17 points 3 days ago (1 children)

10 p.m. to 8 a.m seems like a terrible time to protest

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