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This is meant to scare her and her people, that's it. If they really wanted to kidnap her it sure as fuck wouldn't be projected on the news lmao
Besides, kidnapping someone like Greta is bound to start massive movement and might actually force Europe to actually do something.
I doubt Israel want to stir that pot. They'll probably scare them off again and call it a win.
You can tell how the Telegraph feels from the juvenile choice of photography that makes her look somewhat bizarre, classic right-wing rag.
Yeah, the photo they choose is always a great litmus test for whether or not the article will be biased in one way or another. If an article has a flattering photo, it’s probably going to be praising the subject of the photo. If it has them looking silly, (and to be clear, in this photo Greta looks like she’s failing to hold in a fat shit while she waddles to the toilet), then it’ll probably be critical of them.
So Israel is now announcing its intent to torture EU citizens?
What comes next, invading Cyprus?
Watch as the EU will proceed to do nothing about it.
They will loudly announce that in about 2 month's time they will recognize Greta's right not to be imprisioned but only if she stops proclaiming her innocence.
We are way too busy with Ukraine war and paying more funds for russian oil/gas than the total funds we sent to Ukraine
What comes next, invading Cyprus?
Hey man, next time you're gonna give away the plot or foreshadow, please use a spoiler tag for those who aren't up to date this season
Ah yes, because as everyone knows the best way to stop determined activists from talking about your human rights abuses is to show them first hand your human rights abuses. I'm sure they'll just shut up after that.
This is the "stop crying, or I'll give you something to cry about" bad parent approach.
Next will be the "look what you've made me do" abusive partner approach. Classics!
It's almost as if the Israeli government and military are abusers...
Sure, but it still seems to be like a simply stupid move on their part. They're gonna turn one of the most influential activists of this generation from an outside observer to an eye witness
It's almost as if violence is only stopped by violence
It’s almost as if violence is only stopped by violence
eh, yeah... that's been working out great since the uk sold all that land to two different people and walked away from the shitshow.
I think we're in a situation where we have to take the decision making power out of the hands of people guided by religious rhetoric and malignant monocultural motivation in order to see any real, lasting change.
they almost had this a few times on both sides but the religious nutbags kept assassinating them. the trick is to get secularist people who recognize a multicultural society is stronger than the alternatives, jihad and genocide.
Ahh yes, imprisoning her for the crime of showing empathy. What a bunch ghouls.
We must eliminate their appetite for another attempt
instead of "it is advisable to discourage future attempts" that could be a more professional strategic tone... their language sound to me more like a mob boss in a mafia film, I am probably biased, yes, but that's the tone I would identify among fascists rather than among objective beings handling a problem, full of passionate words as if their strength would be based on that... anyway.
Seriously? More professional language...the world is fucked.
We are not torturing them, we are using enhanced interrogation techniques.
I am not meaning that an eufemististic neolingua substitution would improve the morality of those actions or alike, it does not change the intended purpose behind that phrase, execrable in any case.
My point goes in a different direction, highlighting their viciousness, their emotional engagement, rage and hate, not cold state machinery.
Imagine the phrase I quoted in the following context: there is an organised uprising of progrom attempts carried out by a racist centralised collective against a minority and the state wants to take actions to stop the possibility of such progrom. I cannot imagine their version being used but my example.
There is something particularly disgusting about how right-wing talking heads have latched onto this fantasy of punishing Greta Thunberg, for many years now.
Itamar Ben-Gvir, Israel’s national security minister, is planning to present Benjamin Netanyahu with a plan to detain the activists in harsh “terrorist-level” conditions in the Ktzi’ot and Damon detention centres for females, according to Israel Hayom, one of Israel’s biggest newspapers.
“Following several weeks at Ktzi’ot and Damon, they’ll be sorry about the time they arrived here. We must eliminate their appetite for another attempt.”
What is wrong with these people? You can literally hear the quickening of their breath when they voice their torture fantasies like that.
The activists were also offered the chance to watch footage of Hamas atrocities from Oct 7, which they refused, according to Israel Katz, Israel’s defence minister.
I heard this one before. Like it was some sort of gotcha. Like anybody even claimed that Hamas killing people is OK.
Fucking perverts.
Ben Garrison's comic of Greta Thunberg getting spanked (spoiler for your protection):
Spoiler
I can't wait for all of them to burn in Earth
Yeah I know it (I sure hope you didn't link it from his own site).
But I've seen worse.
Actual...
... rape fantasies drawn on stickers. Long before she even turned 18.
I mean, there's always going to be a couple extreme assholes, but the general stance is surprisingly commonplace and they (men of course) don't seem to realize how transparent it is.
They acted the same way about Palestinian woman Ahed Tamimi. Her cousin was shot by soldiers. She confronted the soldiers and slapped one in front of reporters. The Israeli far right went wild with outrage in the days after, with op-Ed’s calling for her to be punished for the insult and made an example of, with some even saying she should be sexually humiliated, and her entire family was arrested after the pressure.
They acted the same way
You mean the somehow sexualized punishment fantasies?
It's because she's almost a child and they want to fuck her
DING DING DING! You hit the nail on the head! I still remember the oil rig workers in the Dakotas who were giving out stickers depicting Greta being sexually assaulted. This is when she was still underage IIRC. They didn't like her climate change activism and fantasies of grape are how they reacted to a child pushing for a better world.
Then. But she's just another young activist now.
Their hate is mostly a fetish. You see right wingers spend all their time doing what they're told. They never accomplish anything for themself. So their onlyway of self expression is either through blind obedience to a party, a country, a religion either or through hateful transgression (pedophilia, genocide denialism,...)
I know it's the Torygraph, and the media always use the worst possible photo when it's people they don't like, but come on...
They've made the poor girl look like Dana Carvey taking a shit.
He-Man
"How dare she accuse us of doing evil things! We should do evil things to her as revenge."
“Attempting to feed starving people—the nerve of that woman!”
That’s just gonna make her committed.
Seconding the other guy('s sarcasm). I don't think Greta needs any help becoming more committed.
I’m saying…. The act would make here even more committed. The opposite of what Israel would hope for. I’m not saying she’s not very committed. It’s not a criticism of Greta, calm down ASPD
I know you're not criticizing her; I meant more in the sense that turning committed+ into committed++ wouldn't have much practical effect in Greta's case. Id wager that most of what she can realistically do she's already doing.
Someome famous like her, could gather resources to fight Israel directly. No one won a war by dying for their country.
Great, because her commitment so far has been kinda "meh" 🫳
🙃
Edit: I guess the "🙃" isn't clear enough so: /s
Made the mistake of looking at the comments before realising it was a Telegraph article.
This would only vindicate her.
My guess is that these extreme right-wing politicians have their fan base in Israel who will clap (and enjoy the righteous feeling of punishing a woman who deserves it stirring their loins). And that's who the speeches are for.
And maybe they haven't realized that the whole world is listening to their disgusting display of savagery now.
For the sake of Palestinians I hope they figure it out soon, although it would be nice to see them walk deeper into the trap they set for themselves.
[ I got distracted. This was supposed to be a direct reply to your statement - now it's indirect. ]
And maybe they haven't realized that the whole world is listening to their disgusting display of savagery now.
They know, they just don't care anymore. Same as with Nazi Germany.
Eliminate her appetite for another attempt just means they fully intend on letting her go.
It is well known that Israel engages in systematic torture of captives.
