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My goals for this firewall were mostly to provide better robot blocking and perhaps some more powerful DDoS protection than my Raspberry Pi 3 web server is capable of delivering. I still have to do some testing before I will know if my new firewall actually provides either of those, but at least I now have the additional ability to run multiple physical web servers on my LAN. Exploring that should be fun, and fun is a very important component of running a home web server.

Not my article. Just sharing.

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[–] Auth@lemmy.world 95 points 9 months ago (1 children)

All this effort to block clankers? Absolutely worth it fuck clankers.

[–] henfredemars@infosec.pub 53 points 9 months ago (1 children)

I absolutely love the term clankers. It's the perfect blend of dystopian cyberpunk and the very real threat of AI.

[–] Vupware@lemmy.zip 11 points 9 months ago (5 children)

It seems goofy to me — I wish we had collectively picked a term with more oomph.

I’m struggling to come up with an alternative though.

[–] HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world 9 points 9 months ago (1 children)
[–] massacre@lemmy.world 3 points 9 months ago (1 children)
[–] HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world 4 points 9 months ago (1 children)
[–] No_Eponym@lemmy.ca 2 points 9 months ago (1 children)

All of this has happened before.

[–] HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world 1 points 9 months ago

does that mean we get to burn down textile mills?

[–] addie@feddit.uk 4 points 9 months ago (3 children)

I'm still trying to make 'sloppers' happen. Perfectly describes the lack of thought that goes into what they produce.

[–] 4grams@awful.systems 11 points 9 months ago

I like 'sloppers' as a term for the morons distrubing and consuming the shit that the clankers are excreting.

[–] ICastFist@programming.dev 3 points 9 months ago

clankers make the end result that sloppers (meatbags) eat up ;)

[–] anomnom@sh.itjust.works 3 points 9 months ago

Yeah and the make a mess of network traffic that slows everything down.

Sludgers works too, but I like slop for the LLM output, so it makes sense as the bot term of derision.

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[–] BaroqueInMind@piefed.social 33 points 9 months ago (1 children)

This page isn't loading for me.

[–] Zachariah@lemmy.world 82 points 9 months ago (1 children)
[–] BaroqueInMind@piefed.social 21 points 9 months ago (4 children)

I'm getting a 404 error, using Cloudflare DNS, who ironically has the best commercial clanker protection in the world, otherwise half the world's internet wouldn't use them

[–] jaybone@lemmy.zip 32 points 9 months ago (3 children)

Should we just move everything to tor and start the Internet over again?

[–] HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world 10 points 9 months ago (1 children)

look if i can't browse from my fridge i don't want to know about it

[–] zqps@sh.itjust.works 2 points 9 months ago

Not sure about Tor but your fridge definitely supports mesh networks whether it wants to or not.

[–] maxwells_daemon@lemmy.world 7 points 9 months ago (2 children)

Wait till you hear about betanet

[–] kata1yst@sh.itjust.works 12 points 9 months ago

I was interested until I saw the crypto stakes to vote on changes baked in.

[–] BuboScandiacus@mander.xyz 8 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Isn't that the new freenet ?

[–] 0_o7@lemmy.dbzer0.com 8 points 9 months ago (2 children)
[–] cryptTurtle@piefed.social 6 points 9 months ago

surely you mean Pipernet

[–] BuboScandiacus@mander.xyz 2 points 9 months ago

Damn it, with their confusing naming !

[–] quick_snail@feddit.nl 23 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

403 error. Congrats, you built a broken system of false-positives.

[–] gravitywell@sh.itjust.works 12 points 9 months ago (2 children)

Well it cant be that good becauase it thinks im a bot.

Anubis works pretty well for me so far in blocking clankers.

[–] m33@lemmy.zip 9 points 9 months ago (1 children)

It seems Anubis’github issues shows many false positives with smartphone browsers. Depending on OP’s target audience it’s worth to hunt for FP

[–] gravitywell@sh.itjust.works 4 points 9 months ago (2 children)

I just wish i could read it, it seems to block based on my IP which isn't really a good way to identify bots.

[–] m33@lemmy.zip 3 points 9 months ago (1 children)
[–] gravitywell@sh.itjust.works 7 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (2 children)

Thanks but i meant the site in the original post https://cheapskatesguide.org/articles/debian-netinstall-waf.html

It says

403 Error Your IP address has been blocked. This MAY be because you have made yourself look like a robot by using an unknown VPN or Tor exit node.

[–] rumba@lemmy.zip 7 points 9 months ago

Blocking tor is pretty bold, that network is too slow to use for anything but straight up privacy.

[–] m33@lemmy.zip 2 points 9 months ago

How ironic

I guess you will have to resort to online translators or actual web proxies to read these pages 🙄

[–] 0_o7@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 9 months ago (1 children)
[–] gravitywell@sh.itjust.works 2 points 9 months ago

Oh interesting! Thank you.

[–] m33@lemmy.zip 8 points 9 months ago

And then you have to fill a block list with something like https://github.com/mitchellkrogza/nginx-ultimate-bad-bot-blocker

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