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Turning Point USA spokesman Andrew Kolvet on Saturday said Charlie Kirk's surgeon called it an "absolute miracle" that the bullet that killed him didn’t exit his body because dozens of people were standing behind him when he was shot.

"I want to address some of the discussion about the lack of an exit wound with Charlie. I’m usually not interested in delving into most of this kind of online chatter, and I apologize this is somewhat graphic, but in this case, the fact that there wasn’t an exit wound is probably another miracle, and I want people to know," Kolvet, the executive producer of "The Charlie Kirk Show," wrote in a lengthy post on X.

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[–] QuantumTickle@lemmy.zip 83 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Republicans and Democrats agree: Charlie's body is fantastic at stopping bullets.

[–] waterSticksToMyBalls@lemmy.world 24 points 2 months ago

Is this a right wing phenomenon?? More studies are required!

[–] mrcleanup@lemmy.world 63 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Toilet paper USA confirms that God wanted Charlie Kirk dead so he could use the event to show of his powers a little.

[–] FaceDeer@fedia.io 21 points 2 months ago (4 children)

Also confirms that Trump was not miraculous, since his ear didn't catch the bullet that instead went on to nail the guy sitting behind him.

[–] corsicanguppy@lemmy.ca 9 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Since that wound healed perfectly in about 4 days, we know it was just strawberry jam and a bandaid. The ear didn't come close.

[–] greenbit@lemmy.zip 3 points 2 months ago

Trump has trained in the art of blading with his wrestling tenure

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[–] grrgyle@slrpnk.net 45 points 2 months ago (10 children)

To be fair, killing Kirk probably did save some lives

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[–] sp3ctr4l@lemmy.dbzer0.com 43 points 2 months ago (4 children)

This is literally physically impossible, by the way, to make comport with the current official story.

There is 0 chance a 30.06 round fired from 150 yards would stop 'just under the skin'.

A 30.06 at 500 yards can blow apart the bones of an elk or moose.

Literally 0 chance that what is being described is physically possible.

[–] ryannathans@aussie.zone 5 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Have you seen the ballistics gel videos on YouTube? The entire human head explodes

[–] sp3ctr4l@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 2 months ago (3 children)

Yes I've seen it, but that is from a shot hitting roughly dead between the eyes.

Yes, that is what a 30.06 would do had it entered there... but what we are being told is that it entered around where the neck meets the shoulders, on Kirk's left side of his neck.

When bullets of sufficient energy hit a human head, the head tends to basically crack like an egg.

The neck / clavicle region would not... explode to quite that same degree, but the wound should be larger for a 30.06, roughly at least the size of a soft ball should be completely blown out of his neck area.

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[–] NihilsineNefas@slrpnk.net 3 points 2 months ago (1 children)

From what I've heard in the endless discourse from unverified sources, he was wearing plates because he was afraid his new stances on a certain topic would get him killed, which is why the sniper went for the neck

[–] sp3ctr4l@lemmy.dbzer0.com 15 points 2 months ago (1 children)

What you've heard is wrong.

You would have been able to see the outline of plate armor imprinting under his clothes.

Instead, you can see his nipples poking through his fairly thin white shirt.

[–] NihilsineNefas@slrpnk.net 7 points 2 months ago (6 children)

Would make sense, not going to watch that video again to double check.

Its been bad enough that I've had to spend the past five or so years navigating the internet between ethnic cleansings (there are multiple currently happening, West Papua is being bombed as we speak), war crimes and police killings.

I'm sure it's doing wonderful things to the brains of the people actively watching

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[–] Lightor@lemmy.world 35 points 2 months ago (1 children)

With that logic, God could have stopped it a few inches sooner, but chose not to.

[–] ExLisper@lemmy.curiana.net 13 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Could have deflected it by few inches and saved him but apparently the guy behind was more worthy of a miracle.

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[–] SaveTheTuaHawk@lemmy.ca 35 points 2 months ago

Uh. No one was standing behind him.

And where was this miracle when all those people were killed around Trump? Did they get medals and statues?

[–] DaddleDew@lemmy.world 30 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (2 children)

Since these kinds of people love to shoehorn divine intention into everything, what does that specific case mean?

[–] JasonDJ@lemmy.zip 68 points 2 months ago

That Kirk was the only person there that God thought needed to die?

[–] Triumph@fedia.io 28 points 2 months ago (1 children)

A .30-06 round at 150 yards didn't exit his body. Right.

[–] shalafi@lemmy.world 11 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Haven't watched this frame-by-frame take on the ballistics, but I would think a 30.06 would blow half his neck off. There is a frame I looked for while skimming, and oh yeah, his neck expands.

First time I shot a 30.06 my buddy and I were drilling holes in 3/8", high quality steel. Looked like we used a drill press, wasn't even jagged on the exit side.

[–] sp3ctr4l@lemmy.dbzer0.com 18 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

Correct, the scenario we are being presented with, with this latest detail, is laughably impossible, if one has any experience with shooting this caliber.

Not implausible.

Impossible.

A straight on shot from a 30.06 at 150 yards, yes, would have blown off a chunk of his neck at least the size of orange, a soft ball.

It is completely impossible that a 30.06 would have just stopped barely under the skin, stopped by a collar bone or vertebrae.

A 30.06 at 150 yards makes entire cinder blocks explode.

No human bone can withstand this intact, none, full stop, this is not a question, a 30.06 at 150 yards has approximately 2200 FT/LBs of kinetic energy, more than double that of 5.56 at the same range, any human bone a 30.06 hits from 150 yards away would shatter and explode within the body, the bone fragments tearing through the body, probably also erupting out of the skin.

And before anyone comments this: No, Kirk was not wearing body armor, you would have been able to see plate armor on his chest leaving tell tale imprinting signs with that light shirt he was wearing, and you can just literally see his man nipples through the shirt.

Anything less than level 4 plate would have been blown directly through by a 30.06, it would not result in a ricochet into his neck as I keep seeing people say.

(And realistically, level 4 plate might not even hold up to a 30.06 at that range.)

Most of right wing gun tube is currently extremely pissed off over this 'news', as ... they tend to shoot targets on video for a living.

And anyone can go right now and watch them show you how impossible this described scenario is.

This is absolute horseshit, it is an obvious lie.

[–] shalafi@lemmy.world 9 points 2 months ago (1 children)

My immediate assumption was that it was 5.56 or 2.23. No analyzing it in the moment I saw the video, just seemed reasonable at the time. Didn't notice there was no obvious exit wound.

If you showed me that video for the first time and said, "The round was a 30.06.", I'd laugh in your face.

The facts the FBI has presented are laughable on many points. If this guy has a solid lawyer, I can see him sowing a shitload of doubt in the minds of the jurors. As it stands, with what I know in this moment, I'd let him walk. This evidence is far too smelly to be beyond reasonable doubt.

Anyway, I'm off to finally watch that video.

[–] sp3ctr4l@lemmy.dbzer0.com 7 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

My initial guess was .270 or .243, out of a common bolt action hunting rifle.

Now, I have no fucking clue what has actually happened, all I know is the narrative the government and admin connected right wingers are going with is impossible.

Steve Bannon, Candace Owens, and Alex Jones are all calling bullshit on this as well.

Not that I trust them as reliable sources, but large parts of the right are not buying this either.

If you are going to watch the video, up close, and you have PTSD or cannot handle gore well... fucking be ready.

I had a legit PTSD panic attack watching the fucking geyser of blood leave from his neck.

Its fucking bad, if you've ever seen anything like that in real life.

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Also, another whole fucking weird oddity is that Robinson's family has not actually gotten him a lawyer.

Robinson is still, right now, trying to get a public attorney assigned to him.

Yeah, thats right, he does not even have any legal counsel at the moment.

[–] Pizza_Rat@lemmy.world 27 points 2 months ago (2 children)

Wonder if the Epstein files are thick enough to stop a bullet

[–] DeathsEmbrace@lemmy.world 5 points 2 months ago

As a commemoration release the files and copy them to Mythbusters this.

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[–] peoplebeproblems@midwest.social 19 points 2 months ago (2 children)

I mean if it deformed enough to curve into bone I'm pretty sure we don't call it a miracle we call it fluid dynamics.

[–] sp3ctr4l@lemmy.dbzer0.com 9 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (13 children)

Either it didn't, and this is a lie, or the bullet that hit Kirk was not a 30.06 from ~150 yards.

Somebody is lying here.

Yes, lower caliber rounds can and do actually do what is being described.

Not a 30.06. A 30.06 will blow apart a cinder block at that range, easily.

A 30.06 at 150 yards has about 2200 FT/LBs of kinetic energy.

A .22lr pistol round is much more likely to do what is being described here... even from less than 50 yards, you're talking more like 100 FT/LBs of KE.

A 9mm at less than 50 yards? Around 250 FT/LBs.

5.56mm? At 150 yards? ~950 FT/LBs.

Again, a 30.06 at 150 yards is ~2200 FT/LBs.

The actual physics of fluid dynamics and composite materials do not work with the scenario we are being told happened.

[–] peoplebeproblems@midwest.social 4 points 2 months ago (1 children)

You know. I hadn't thought about that. I've seen that round hit a deer, and my thinking before was that it instantly killed the deer sort of like Kirk.

But that hole was much bigger and it was knocked clear off its feet. Like it got hit by a car.

Kirk was still sitting upright and the would was far too small.

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[–] fort_burp@feddit.nl 15 points 2 months ago

I knew it. I knew Charlie's Mom was special.

[–] skozzii@lemmy.ca 15 points 2 months ago (1 children)

They 100% are going to use this to try and make him a Saint.

[–] SippyCup@lemmy.ml 7 points 2 months ago (1 children)

He was 🤏 this close to becoming a Catholic.

But he wasn't. So he's unlikely to be granted sainthood.

[–] buddascrayon@lemmy.world 4 points 2 months ago

Won't stop these mouth breathers from trying.

[–] Naich@lemmings.world 14 points 2 months ago

I suppose it's because you need to have a confirmed miracle in order to have him made a saint.

[–] RizzRustbolt@lemmy.world 7 points 2 months ago (1 children)

What surgeon? He was declared at the scene. Are they talking about the coroner?

[–] sp3ctr4l@lemmy.dbzer0.com 10 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

He was not declared dead at the scene, Trump was actually the person who broke the news that Kirk was dead, about an hour after the shooting, maybe 45 to 30 minutes after Kirk arrived at the hospital... he was reported as in critical condition, but likely already dead...

...but uh yeah, yeah it would be nice to know who this surgeon was, or, you know, maybe get us a fucking autopsy report?

[–] ryannathans@aussie.zone 3 points 2 months ago (2 children)

I thought it was Netanyahu? Or did they post at roughly the same time?

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[–] chosensilence@pawb.social 6 points 2 months ago (1 children)

this has literally never happened in the history of sniper shootings so.. add Kirk to the long list of all of them, i guess. what a miracle.

[–] Kolanaki@pawb.social 5 points 2 months ago

These "journalists" played too much Sniper Elite where you can curve a single bullet to kill 15 nazis standing in a circle.

[–] DarkCloud@lemmy.world 5 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

The invisible man standing behind him was saved.

[–] Almacca@aussie.zone 4 points 2 months ago

God sure does move in mysterious ways.

[–] frezik@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Bullets do weird things when they go into flesh and bone. Thanks for the insight, Fox!

[–] sp3ctr4l@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (8 children)

Not this, this is completely fucking impossible.

A pistol round could do what is being described here, that is believable.

Not a 30.06, that is completely impossible.

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