The Deprogram Podcast

It's fascinating how all leftist subs are getting systematically nuked by reddit by they never touch these ones.

This is why I hate Reddit. Socialism gets suppressed there and only perversions are allowed there. That's why I'm planning to delete my Reddit account. I only keep it to follow some subreddits for the Dutch elections, but after that I'm planning to delete it.

I don't think the ACP are dangerous relative to say democrats, DSA, or republicans. Those that buy into their reactionary messaging have perceived material interests otherwise they wouldn't be doing so.

I think as MLs we have to really unlearn metaphysical concepts of how persuasion works and the myth of "brainwashing"; we are meant to be dialectical materialists which means the material always comes before the idea. For example, the material interests of colonialism furthered racism not the other way around.

I understand we are all at different stages of our ML journey and the above might ruffle up some feathers, and if one is a westerner living in the imperial cores it will inevitably mean some deep internal and external reflection to identify who in our populations truly has revolutionary potential*, and who we can compromise with to make a mass movement without tailism (think what the 4 smaller stars of the PRC flag means!), and sometimes appreciating the futility with some online crusades at attempts to "raise awareness" without considering the marxist scientific theory of political change.

Truly understanding the above will lead to two things: (1) a correct approach to class analysis and revolution (2) revolutionary optimism.

A must-read for all MLs on "brainwashing": https://redsails.org/masses-elites-and-rebels/

What are the strategic consequences of decisively rejecting the tripartite social theory advanced by Orwell, and adopting Marx’s all-encompassing one instead? The basic call to action looks something like this:

Stop accusing the masses of being “brainwashed.” Stop treating them as cattle, stop attempting to rouse them into action by scolding them with exposure to “unpleasant truths.”

Accept instead that they have been avoiding those truths for a reason. You were able to break through the propaganda barrier, and so could they if they really wanted to. Many of these people see you as the fool, and in many cases not without reason.

Understanding people as intelligent beings, craft a political strategy that convincingly makes the case for why they and their lot are very likely to benefit from joining your political project. Not in some utopian infinite timescale, but soon.

If you cannot make this case, then forget about convincing the person in question. Focus instead on finding other people to whom such a case can be made. This will lead you directly to class analysis.

I began this essay by relating the tough lesson that people often weren’t receptive to my research into anticommunist atrocity propaganda narratives. However, this wasn’t the only lesson I learned in all this time...

*ie benefits from the end of USAmerican imperialism in this timeline. So for example, if socdem politics in spreading the loot of imperialism is considered a greater material benefit than the end of US imperialism well then you may find it challenging to convince otherwise. Yes this is hard. But not impossible. As Kwame Ture said wherever there is oppression by definition there is resistance, even if that resistance appears to be silent. I suspect MLs will need to do a stastical deep dive of US population to understand who need to be targeted and how.

I think this stems from a huge misinterpretation of the situation to be honest.

Reddit at this point is a fascist manipulation machine which actively supports all forms of misinformation supporting fascism and opposing socialism, antiimperialism, etc.

It is absolutely clear that all forms of perversion will be present there and imo there is no chance in hell that we will "win" on reddit.

If I may risk a suggestion, I would actively encourage people to get their information elsewhere wile pointing out the hypocrisy on reddit itself.

I deleted my reddit account because I cant handle loosing braincells all the time and I'm more productive using my skills otherwise to advance the cause. I understand reddit is a battlegroud but it is not a fair one. It's controlled by fascists and imo we should think about it differently. Maybe we should work on protesting reddit instead of individual discussions. Or we send teams that pose as right wingers to subtly point out contradictions.

I just think one needs to be aware that reddit pretty much is the führerbunker at this point and tactics need to change.

Historically during ww2 there were german communists, anarchists, and socdems that joined the nazi party. They earned the nickname "beefsteak nazis" or "roast beef nazis". They were usually called so to distinguish them from the normal nazis as they were more Strasserite than Hitlerite in their socioeconomic outlook. Wiki article for further reading

So for the acp, they're the opposite to the beefsteak nazis as they're fascists larping as communists, so I want to coin their nickname as "Ground Beef Communists" red on the outside, brown on the inside. That's because pre-packaged ground beef red on the outside and sometimes dull, grayish-brown inside. Oxygen from the air reacts with meat pigments to form a bright red color which is usually seen on the surface of meat purchased in the supermarket. The pigment responsible for the red color in meat is oxymyoglobin, a substance found in all warm-blooded animals. The interior of the meat may be grayish brown due to lack of oxygen.

Their rank and file are rank and filled with literal fascists ranging from outright fascists that shit and giggle themselves over finding a way to "infiltrate the left" to the "confused" fascists who follow dugin's mystic fascist nonsense. They're another head on the sheepdog to chase the working class away from class consciousness.

This ACP are hype up on American patriotism and American exceptionalism. Midwestern Marxism was dismissing settler colonialism and trying to justify the Native American genocide. They are the same people who are talk about how the Founding Fathers would have supported communism. This is just the American version of the National Bolshevism and National Socialism movements that had came out of Europe.

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Oh no, we lost a guy who says "vatnik" in 2025. I guess we'll have to work with the world majority instead.

Would you like to receive a lecture on why the ACP has extremely close politics to the DSA, PSL, CPUSA, and the alt media connections they all have are identical with the only difference being whether it leads back to Larouche or Brian Becker? They are literally just palette swapped western leftists who hate gay people. Everyone involved treats Heidegger like a serious philosopher.