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Ontario will impose a 25% surcharge on electricity exports to New York, Michigan, and Minnesota starting Monday in retaliation for Trump’s tariffs on Canadian goods.

Premier Doug Ford warned U.S. governors and vowed to maintain the surcharge until all tariffs are lifted.

Canada has already imposed $30 billion in retaliatory tariffs, with more planned.

Ford also threatened to cut power to the states by April and banned U.S. firms from bidding on Ontario contracts. A $100M SpaceX deal for rural internet was also scrapped in response.

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[–] VacheronPatek@feddit.nl 1 points 1 month ago (2 children)
[–] supernight52@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

As an American- Agree. The dumbfucks in this country aren't going to understand they fucked up, until the pain kicks in.

[–] vaprz@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

It will likely take awhile for this to have any effect. I know at least in my state (ME) the utility needs to give a 30 day notice of rate hike and then that needs to then go to committee within public utility commission, who will basically arbitrate the request for increase.

Consequently, my supplier of electricity is a wholly owned Canadian company...so they'd actually be paying the increase until a rate hike was approved. Also, would a punitive rate hike even be approved?

They have enough trouble getting a 1% rate hike though for building infrastructure.

Edit: Although I'm not up to speed on if the affected states have set rates or variable rates.

[–] takeda@lemm.ee 1 points 1 month ago (3 children)

Any foreigner should avoid visiting US or buying US products to put pressure too.

It is crazy to advocate for it, as I live in US, but this administration needs pressure from everywhere.

[–] commander@lemmings.world 1 points 1 month ago

Pretty sure american products don't have much of a presence outside of the USA because they're actually low-quality and expensive.

[–] Korhaka@sopuli.xyz 1 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Brit here, I make sure to try and pay more attention and avoid American products now. Not that I bought many before, cola is probably the main one when at a pub/restaurant. Now if there is nothing else I want I just get water. So probably a healthier switch.

[–] FabledAepitaph@lemmy.world -1 points 1 month ago

Yeah, I'm discouraged to even buy American because Trump and the Republicans have basically turned that into a nationalist policy. I used to love buying American and local, but it feels gross to think that I'm supporting their agenda.

[–] towelie@lemm.ee 1 points 1 month ago

Based Doug Ford was not on my 2025 bingo card.

[–] Theonetheycall1845@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

When Trump said "America is back!" did he mean in the back of the line? Cause that's where we're at fellas.

[–] unphazed@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago

In healthcare, we've been back of the line for decades.

[–] djsoren19@lemmy.blahaj.zone 0 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I'm certain he's doing it for the wrong reasons, but it's nice to see the angry raging conservative attacking a genuine asshole for once.

[–] Skyrmir@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago

Honestly he's even doing it for the right reasons. His country has been economically attacked. Not to respond would just make it worse.

[–] ofcourse@lemmy.ml 0 points 1 month ago (2 children)

The era of US-Canada being brothers in arms is over. I doubt US will be receiving any favors in the future without something in return. And if Canada chooses to expand their supply chains outside of the US, which they 100% should, there’ll be no coming back to a scale of trade as it exists today.

[–] kava@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Canada - America trade amounts to a little over $920B https://crsreports.congress.gov/product/pdf/IF/IF12595

Canadian GDP is a little over $2.1T https://data.worldbank.org/indicator/NY.GDP.MKTP.CD?locations=CA

We're talking nearly half of their GDP. In addition, half of Canadian foreign investment comes directly from the US. They will continue to be integrated into the US economy, even if Trump doubled the tariffs tomorrow.

And that's because Canada, and Mexico to an even higher extent, are completely reliant on US trade. They both have no real choice but to grin and bear it. They will of course speak out publicly for the domestic audience but things will continue more or less status quo for the foreseeable future.

[–] CircaV@lemmy.ca 1 points 1 month ago

canada and Mexico are not “grinning and bearing it” though

[–] thermal_shock@lemmy.world 0 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (2 children)

I cut off a Canadian guy I was friends with recently, this guy agreed with everything Trump was doing.

Told him I don't associate with Trump supporters, even weirder you're Canadian (and lives in Canada)

He said he didn't support trump, but reads all the policies front to back and agrees with them.

I said ok, bye and blocked his ass, we can talk again when you get invaded and become 51st state you love him so much.

Wtf is going on?? He had some bullshit reply to everything like he was Canadian maga.

It basically boils down to this: Trump is a lying, racist, rapist.

How do you put trust in anything he says? I can show you 200 lies, with evidence, just in the last week. He loves Putin and himself, gives no shits about us. He's already broken long existing agreements with other countries, he CANNOT be trusted, no matter how good what he says sounds. His goal is to exact revenge on those that don't like him or have said something bad about him, his skin is so thin. You don't "accidentally" rape a person, he is an absolute terrible human being who deserves zero respect from anyone. Fuck Trump in the neck with a metal pipe.

John Stewart agrees with some of the DOGE objectives.

John Oliver agrees with some of RFKs beliefs.

[–] Ashe@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 1 month ago

Someone I know just keeps telling me he disagrees with every policy that's bad, while also saying he agrees with Trump for 50 things per the 5 he disagrees with.

Anyway that relationship is very sour as you can imagine