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[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 45 points 4 days ago

I can't believe the guy who originally administered the creation of Twitter would do all the exact same things that originally made him billions of dollars selling the company to Elon Musk.

There's no way he's just speed-running what he did last time in hopes of another $44B buyout.

[–] Wimster@lemmy.wtf 59 points 5 days ago (6 children)

Bluesky is the new X. After canceling the accounts of Turkish protesters this is the next step for the big money behind Bluesky. That’s why I deleted my account a few days ago.

[–] SouthEndSunset@lemm.ee 14 points 4 days ago

Exactly, Bluesky has been shitty for a while for lots of reasons. I’m not understanding why this is the line in the sand.

[–] DoomProphet@lemmy.dbzer0.com 15 points 4 days ago

Same. Deleted my account when they started to censor the Turkish protestors. Not that I used the account really but still.

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[–] rpl6475@lemmy.ml 50 points 4 days ago

Then come over to Mastodon...

[–] sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works 27 points 4 days ago (3 children)

The checkmark is the wrong approach. You should never trust accounts, because accounts get hacked. We should instead use cryptographic signatures on individual posts, and clients can warn when that signature doesn't match the account's public key, or if that key changed recently. The private key would never live on the server, and ideally live outside the app.

This doesn't verify identity, it just proves the key didn't change. To establish identity, the person needs to use the same key in multiple places, such as posting it on a personal website or something. If a service wants to add their own stamp of approval, they can sign these public keys and embed them into the apl for clients to use (e.g. show a blue checkmark if Bluesky can verify the public key outside its system).

If the private key is compromised, repeat the process, potentially signing the new key with both the old and new key to prove control of both (or start from scratch if needed). Repeat whenever they get hacked.

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[–] jaemo@sh.itjust.works 28 points 4 days ago (5 children)

ARE WE LEARNING HOW "SOCIAL MEDIA" WORKS YET HUMANITY?

Seriously. How many more fucking times do we need to go around this goddamn merry go round until we just start calling each other on the phone and meeting face to face again. You know, where the only enshittification is the one you bring with you. It's fucking boring me now, how many of these stupid ass things I didn't join because I've already, apparently, gotten the memo and how, inevitably, something like this happens, and everyone acts surprised and disappointed , as though inevitability was a concept they felt they'd been given a sabbatical from or something.

This. Shit. Ain't. Free. There is an inherent cost, an "effort" required to communicate with others. You pay it with money, time or privacy. The overwhelming choice lately has been "privacy", but it's obviously something that not everyone is comfortable with, because we didn't have the term "enshittification" before we started this flavor of our collective idiocy.

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[–] Tattorack@lemmy.world 104 points 5 days ago (3 children)

So long as the checkmark isn't bought through some subscription service, I'm fine with this.

The whole reason why verification exists is because other will steal the name of someone famous and masquerade as them, with real world consequences. A verification system now means that certain platforms and people will get more attracted to be there, and thus Bluesky will grow.

[–] setsneedtofeed@lemmy.world 17 points 5 days ago

Unfortunately, the forecast isn't good for the integrity of what should be a simple system. Under Dorsey, the Twitter blue checkmark had already become a tool for showing content approval by Twitter. In various instances users had their status removed based on their content and not on a question of if they were who they claimed to be.

[–] GoMati@lemmy.world 12 points 5 days ago

It's not.

Not yet 😏

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[–] einkorn@feddit.org 260 points 6 days ago (9 children)

Bluesky, the decentralized social network [...]

Were only one instance exist or did I miss something?

[–] InfiniteHench@lemmy.world 165 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (7 children)

As I understand it, the protocol has the ability to decentralize built in. But the technical requirements are prohibitively high to the point only large businesses or corps could afford to do it. I also believe (someone correct me) the company hasn’t switched on the functionality yet.

[–] Drunemeton@lemmy.world 66 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Last heard (a few months ago) the cost is in storage. The protocol isn’t too complicated now, but it generates a shit ton of data, and IIRC you need a minimum of 3 copies.

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[–] noodlejetski@lemm.ee 38 points 5 days ago (2 children)

my mom has always told me that I had the potential to work at NASA. but the requirements are prohibitively high

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[–] MangoPenguin@lemmy.blahaj.zone 57 points 6 days ago (9 children)

Nope, it's 100% centralized.

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[–] TheEighthDoctor@lemmy.zip 36 points 4 days ago (1 children)

No one disliked the check mark before "Genghis Kunt" started selling it

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[–] joel_feila@lemmy.world 40 points 5 days ago (10 children)

Something like this unavoidable.

Example, ted cruz the car mechanic in marfa Texas has just has much right to use blusky as ~~professional shit bag~~ senator ted cruz. But hiw do tell the real one from the racid sack of weasels.

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[–] umbrella@lemmy.ml 41 points 5 days ago

mastodon exists

[–] emb@lemmy.world 134 points 6 days ago (12 children)

I do not see anything to be angry or disappointed about?

Verification badge was good, the dumb thing Twitter did was throw it away by letting anyone pay for it.

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[–] Mars2k21@sh.itjust.works 121 points 6 days ago (3 children)

idk man I haven't seen anyone complaining about it on Bluesky

This is a net positive, nice to have a social media where verification checks are...actually used for verifying the person behind an account

[–] cyrano@lemmy.dbzer0.com 29 points 6 days ago (16 children)

But isn’t the domain already doing that?

[–] nekusoul@lemmy.nekusoul.de 32 points 5 days ago (3 children)

The problem with domains is that regular people would need to know what a domain is and what verified ownership says about the account in question.

Even then, reading domains is quite difficult, even for people who know about the topic: Humans are Bad at URLs and Fonts Don’t Matter

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[–] vodkasolution@feddit.it 15 points 4 days ago (5 children)

you don't kill a cow for a scratch on her leg (I hope the saying is understandable for everybody since it doesn't come from English).
I'm on mastodon and bluesky: the first is even less populated than here and a big part of the interesting content comes from bot reposting popular accounts from x or reddit, while the second is far from being THE solution but it's nowadays a -not wildly populated- compromise. I don't condone (while I understand) the Turkish bans and I'm not interested in a verification system: if I'd like one, I'd use https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/EIDAS.
I hope bluesky will correct its approach for what they can (the "good old" twitterin the golden era was banned in Turkey)

[–] Ibuthyr@lemmy.wtf 9 points 4 days ago (2 children)

I believe the equivalent saying would be "don't let perfect be the enemy of good".

I couldn't give a single shit about these twitter alternatives, because the whole concept is stupid.

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[–] Pirata@lemm.ee 72 points 5 days ago

This was always bait to keep people using corporate social media instead of decentralizing. I am not sorry for the users one bit.

[–] sunglocto@lemmy.dbzer0.com 26 points 4 days ago

Preaching to the choir

But anyway anyone who thinks bluesky is actually decentralised will learn sooner rather than later that that's not the case

[–] aeronmelon@lemmy.world 139 points 6 days ago (4 children)

Anyone who is surprised that BlueSky is going down the same path as Twitter (X, not withstanding) belongs on BlueSky.

[–] njordomir@lemmy.world 63 points 6 days ago

I think a few more people "get it" every time the cycle repeats, but also, a sucker is born every minute.

[–] primemagnus@lemmy.ca 42 points 6 days ago (2 children)

If it ends Elon, I’m gonna allow it. If Twitter fails, his stock in Tesla will have to back it. If that tanks… he’ll have to work his way out of bankruptcy. Just squeeze….

[–] thatKamGuy@sh.itjust.works 36 points 6 days ago (5 children)

He’s already sold Twitter/X to xAI; he’s got his arse covered when the bottom eventually falls out.

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[–] Lucky_777@lemmy.world 11 points 4 days ago

Figured they would go down this route. Don't use it anyway

[–] mr2meows@pawb.social 14 points 4 days ago (1 children)

this is unnecessary with custom domains

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[–] MyOpinion@lemm.ee 34 points 5 days ago

This shitshow sounds familiar.

[–] southsamurai@sh.itjust.works 84 points 6 days ago

The fuck did anyone expect?

[–] blazeknave@lemmy.world 34 points 5 days ago (2 children)

To quote my well known journalist friend after switching from twitter "what's that? Oh, that open source stuff? Hahaha nah bruh, mastodon is silly"

[–] SwingingTheLamp@midwest.social 30 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Reminds me of a meeting my co-worker and I had with the IT staff of a company that is a customer using research instruments in our facility. The meeting was to ask us to enable data synchronization through SharePoint. (We're a Linux shop.) We asked what the issue was with getting their data files with SFTP. They said, "It's open source."

Then, a few beats of silence as it sinks in for us that there is no next step in the chain of logic. That is the totality of their objection.

[–] joel_feila@lemmy.world 12 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Ok so they knew enough about software to use open source correctly in a sentence, but could not even list one reason why they didn't want to use it.

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[–] reddig33@lemmy.world 67 points 6 days ago (8 children)

I don’t see anything controversial in the article. Did I miss something? Just looks like a way to make sure the public figures and companies you are communicating with are who they say they are.

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[–] lovewhenshe@lemmy.world 14 points 5 days ago (2 children)

Yous are hyping it a basic verification system which can't be bought and is handed out for the sake of showing credibility is a good thing

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[–] ComradeRachel@lemmy.blahaj.zone 52 points 6 days ago (6 children)

Tbh I've seen more people asking for this than the people complaining.

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[–] CalipherJones@lemmy.world 7 points 4 days ago

Yeah I deleted my Bluesky. All public companies eventually turn to shit because of the shareholders unending greed.

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