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“What I’ve seen with AI is an erosion of trust.”

Mozilla is not going to train its own giant LLM anytime soon. But there’s still an AI Mode coming to Firefox next year, which Enzor-DeMeo says will offer users their choice of model and product, all in a browser they can understand and from a company they can trust. “We’re not incentivized to push one model or the other,” he says. “So we’re going to try to go to market with multiple models.” Some will be open-source models available to anyone.

This is such an out of touch non-answer here.

People don’t oppose ai changes because they’re locked into a model. In fact most AI products I use for my job let you choose a fucking model.

People hate them because

A) 90% of the time they’re useless and the remaining 10 are detrimental to the product experience

B) Ethical concerns about training off of artists and authors as well as environmental impact. EDIT: or also the general trend of trying to replace humans with AI.

C) Not wanting to play into the fucking arms race the billionaire class are manufacturing

D) The time they could be useful they have a risk of being either hilariously wrong or dangerously wrong. And there’s no amount of training and GPU manufacturing that’s gonna fix that.

Absolutely none of this is addressed by the CEO. I’m sure he has to say this because of the fucking tulip crazy money is in around this but it doesn’t make it any less tone deaf or futile.

Programs are like socks, once they get dirty, you change them. Do these people really not understand how this stuff works? Even giants can fall when enough people switch to other options

I've cancelled my monthly donation to Mozilla. What's the point. Every bit of feedback I've provided is to the tune of no goddamn AI, spend my money towards keeping up with the alternatives to make sure there's always an extra player in the field. Instead it's going to some overpaid dickhead who's going to introduce AI.

Mozilla is completely detached from its user base. They think their average user is a Microsoft enthusiast when in reality it's a Debian enjoyer.

Is there like a petition or something we can all sign to show that literally no cunt wants this?

I'm going to have to go Amish at this rate.

Overpaid CEO has more money than actual sense.

Just like I said in another post related to this, I hope this doesn't kill LibreWolf, IceCat, and Waterfox.

CEO = bad

every. single. time.

That's what all CEOs do. Double down on AI.

Why do they keep going all in on AI when no one wants it?

You either die Old Mozilla or you live to see yourself become Current Mozilla.

Of course, this is just what Firefox needs ~~fixing long standing issues, catching up to web standards, process isolation on mobile~~ AI!

It's almost as if they are out of touch with their users. I don't get it. CEOs are just normal people like us.

/s

But why? Be unique! Don't just do what everyone else does!

Can it be disabled?

Firefox doesn't really need to make money so long as Google has to worry about being broken up by the Fed for antitrust reasons... Obviously so long as there is a national socialist/Trump regime in place that's not really something they have to worry about. Why, Goog even donated $5m to Trump's little Whitehouse evisceration/ballroom project, and will get their very own plaque in the ballroom that all the ballpeople can look at.

Google has donated over $USD 1B to Mozilla. The standard conspiracy fud is so that it can sink its claws into its open source competition, corrupting it with its omniscient googliness, but FIrefox barely blips on the radar of browser use, not even including Tor, Waterfox, Librewolf (which I'm currently using), and other forks. It's just not going to threaten any of the megas any time soon.

The actual motive for giving Mozilla so much money is simply to deflect any accusations that they're a monopoly that hurts market competition.

I was having issues with Librewolf on a work computer a few weeks ago, so I decided to try Firefox to see if it was LW's security settings.

Holy shit, what a fucking trainwreck Firefox has become! It's so bad that I can't honestly recommend anyone use it anymore. The first time I started it, I saw all kinds of ads and trashy "news" articles that had no relevance to me whatsoever. Plus I had to reinstall all my extensions because they weren't signed and there's no way to disable that requirement. I was so horrified and offended, I just dumped it immediately and tried Chrome instead. What difference is there at this point?

It's just insulting at this point. I understand that they trying to find new revenue sources, and things are still better today than they were with Mitchell Baker as CEO, but it's still horrific how poorly Mozilla is being run. I'm so grateful we still have usable forks from the amazing people running projects like Librewolf. Without them, the web would just be flat out unusable.

I used to use it exclusively, but it slowly got bloated, so when I got rid of windows, I went to tor browser and librewolf.

Who is this a signal for though? They could silently add the AI features and rally their base on aspects people actually like. It's almost like Firefox doesn't want to succeed