Meta whistleblower Sarah Wynn-Williams says company targeted ads at teens based on their ‘emotional state’
[...] She said the company was letting advertisers know when the teens were depressed so they could be served an ad at the best time.
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Meta whistleblower Sarah Wynn-Williams says company targeted ads at teens based on their ‘emotional state’
[...] She said the company was letting advertisers know when the teens were depressed so they could be served an ad at the best time.
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considering that tobacco companies are still here, it's kind of a weird title
I would liken them to the automotive industry. Both have deeply harmed society by isolating people from each other (it sounds counterintuitive, I know). Both have created infrastructure that prioritizes individual consumption over collective well being, restructured daily life around corporate products, and normalized a form of privatized existence that erodes public space, shared culture, and relational life. Just as cars gutted walkable communities and made human scale living subordinate to machines, Big Tech has gutted organic social interaction, subordinating communication and attention to platforms designed for extraction and control. #fuckcars #fuckbigtech
Don't forget the cycle of buying up all patents and shelving them if they are a threat to their goals. What a future we've wasted.
Reminds me of a part I've recently read on The Dawn of Everything, comparing the Great Lakes natives' freedoms to our corporate owned "freedoms": while we're busy with the "possibility of freedom", they cared about the exercise of their freedoms.
Before the colonization, they were free to visit other places because they almost always had someone that belonged to their clan living there and who would receive them with open arms. They didn't have to pay anything for the travel proper, but obviously needed to take some supplies to spend the days on the wilderness. For us, if we don't have money, we don't have freedoms: gotta pay for the car+gas (or plane or ship ticket), food, housing.
Thank You for Posting (2025)
Great callback. I haven't thought of Thank You For Smoking in ages.
That is a prescient little from my teenage years.l back in earlly 00's. The film was a nice stab at the culture of "spin" and how lobbying was gonna dig us into the hell we are now.
Hmmm, Thank You For Posting would be an actual relevant sequel in the time of endless sequels. Backdropping it with the lobbying for the Turd Reich and the ascension of Fascism and you got something there...
Thank you for reminding me of Thank You For Smoking.
They are the asbestos of the internet.
asbestos at least was the best option until a couple years ago for numerous applications.
It probably still is. It's a miracle material. It's a real shame that it's so toxic.
Getting a dumbphone was one of the best decisions I took in my life. It helps me focus better and read books. I don't actually need the internet with me 24/7. If you really need me, you can call.
Try it. Some people will call you crazy. Just ignore them.
i'm curious, what exactly is the advantage of getting a dumbphone vs just uninstalling social media apps from your existing phone, or just disabling internet access all together? doesn't that achieve pretty much the same thing while still being able to keep things like navigation and being able to see when public transport is delayed
It's like quitting cold turkey - removes the temptation to use these apps.
I got an e-ink e-reader in the pocketable form factor of a phone (Bigme Hibreak Color). Instead of doomscrolling social media, I read a couple paragraphs of the Oppenheimer biography. Next I’ll reread Neuromancer. It’s life-changing. 10/10 highly recommended.
Cool! What made you chose that over something like the boox that is the same form factor but without phone functionality?
Color screen and the fact that Onyx, the makers of Boox, flagrantly violate GPL terms.
But it was the Boox Palma getting publicity that made me aware of the form factor and start digging. I’m super happy with the Bigme Hibreak, but I don’t have a SIM card in it. I mostly use it in airplane mode as a dumb e-reader and don’t even install any apps besides the minimum needed to do that.
Ah ok, so do you carry a smartphone as well? I wonder what it would be like to completely rely on the bigme
I do. It’s not ideal but it still gives me something better to do than social media.
I’ve heard it’s quirky and kinda mid as a phone, but not unusable.
ok but like if I don't have music and noise cancelling earbuds I will explode
pretty sure they are options
I would like wired earphones to make a comeback, though that wouldn't stop certain assholes from watching stuff/listening to music without them on the bus with max volume
People tend to interact with technology on a default permit basis, which is partly why they have weather-vane attention spans and obliterated focusing capacity. They're like Pavlov's dog, responding to every notification and ping and service update; and social media is treated as the default use state until something else yells for their attention.
I have notifications denied by default. Notifications are lame and a known privacy threat. No one needs to be bothered because someone responded in a group chat or a new post surfaced on a Lemmy comm or a 'deal alert' got pushed by some marketing dipshit on the other side of the planet. That they exist at all for email is ludicrous. Email is an asychronous protocol - delayed responses are a feature.
Stop giving this stuff attention on demand and start allocating attention windows where it will get seen to. Email that gets in front of your eyes is 99 per cent transaction stubs if you're doing it right; there is no more reason to pay it any attention outside 7pm for 10 or 15 minutes (say). Similar treatment should apply to most messaging to be honest.
The evil tobacco company is an outdated narrative. They were already regulated to hell 22 years ago when I started smoking and since then I've only ever seen the regulations increase now with the new apparent goal of outlawing nicotine. I can only speculate that people think this time we're going to get prohibition right.
btw I quit smoking 7 years ago, and nicotine altogether 5 years ago.
It's called "history", not "outdated". Op is comparing a historical behavior with a current behavior.
The current tobacco companies are no longer any more evil than any other business is my point. It's a bad comparison for a modern day Social Media company, especially since so little of the population today was around for when Tobacco companies were at there worst.
Well, done quitting. Respect
If anything the oil companies are the most evil. They knew climate change was going to happen 50+ years ago.
I hate to alarm you but the entire planet knew climate change was going to happen 50 years ago because that was the 70s when this became well known.
Oil companies were noticing several decades before.
It's illegal to grow your own tobacco in more states now than it is to grow you own cannabis
Except, you know, tobacco companies are modern day tobacco companies. They were never defeated.
it's an analogy; the author is drawing parallels between them. Obviously Tobacco companies were not "defeated" but they were regulated to hell, and I'm sure the author would say that's what we need to do with social media too.
Yeah, it's crazy how many commenters here are completely missing the point. I should really stop assuming people have any sort of intelligence.
Muted in the English world. I argue junk food commercials draw a lot of parallels with cigarette commercials of the past. For some reason obesity isn't worth prevention so the advertisements are pretty gross.
Soft drinks. Coca Cola especially really loves to tie emotions and sports/holidays to sugar water.
Well, considering all the tobacco companies entrenched themselves in food companies you're basically right.
It's why foods are addictive, and have very little nutritional value. It's beyond "oh no its full of sugar" it the fact that everything is processed and is full of fake sugar (as an example).
They were never defeated.
When you say "defeated", what exactly do you mean? You mean that they should cease to exist to be considered as such? If that's the case then I would say it's an unrealistic expectation.
I would say that they've been largely contained. If I remember correctly, back in the '50s almost half of the American population used to smoke. The percentage of people smoking has been consistently decreasing over the years thanks to regulation and increased taxation. Tobacco companies are definetly not as influential as they once were.
I've been telling this to family and friends, apparently they didn't want to agree. At least there is article now. I do think current social media will be looked at in future like tobacco/smoking is currently looked at.
Wait till you find out we still have tobacco companies, and they’ve been getting into the vape and weed game this whole time
I think that, in 10-20 years, the research around social media addiction will bear out this way, yes. It's wild to me how every time the discussion around regulating social media comes up, most people just kind of ignore its effects on kids' mental health.
It's not very wild when you realize you're talking to addicts. The whole world is addicted.
Wow. I don't know why I've never made the parallel before, but yes, this is a good way to explain to people the woes of these companies that can be overlooked in the moment but are painfully clear in hindsight.
Even though I knew about most of this, I never realized how striking the parallels are.
Y'all, one of the far-reaching Broligarchy ideas they're hoping emerges from the ashes of the United States is the DAO, decentralized autonomous organization.
Every action in the block chain. They facilitate, and are predicated on, the idea of treating every aspect of life as a social network. Everything you do is recorded. So daily life ends up incentived toward constant, persistent, corralled engagement. The Network State is the term.
The difference is that you can't build a society on the mechanics of the tobacco industry. But you can on a human reaction industry.