As a solitary meat popsicle with limited understanding of fucked up shit, at what "level" of fucked up shit is the US finally and officially "perma-fucked"?
Every time my meat popsicle brain thinks "That's probably the last straw" they find thousands more straws somewhere AND I DON'T GET IT.
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That was back at the moment when Trump threw around enough tariffs to make countries with longstanding enmity sign direct trade deals with each other, cutting us out as the middleman. Those will never, ever come back (they were mostly forged in the wake of WWII, when the US had the only functional economy)
As for when we'll see it? I think we have a "oh shit" world stage moment if the US tries to attack Greenland, as Denmark will then have to defend - and then by chain of treaties WWIII kicks off.
If we avoid that fate somehow, then there probably won't be a specific moment - the US will over twenty or so years just slowly collapse in on itself and other countries will quietly start ignoring US while publicly paying lip service. … - There will probably be an event when we publicly can't afford the giant military we have which will be an existential crisis for a news cycle.
That's my attempt to read the tea leaves in the crystal ball.
I'm going to start fantasizing about 15 years from now being invaded by Canada and running out into the street to thank them for it
Hey hoser, I'll be happy t'a meet ya there with a brewski.
We'll exchange brewskis, insult each others' brands, and shakes hands abouts it.
Sounds like a plan!
May the streets run red with maple leaves
I didn't know the US was going to med school. That thing was expensive!
Then you won't believe this: it's the Phil McGraw School of Medicine at RFK Jr. University. The dean is Dr. Mehmet Oz.
Oh man, this must be that FiScAl ReSpOnSiBiLiTy I keep hearing about from the ~~reich~~ right
Even years ago, you could tell how honest the Tea Party people were by asking if they'd defund the police or military.
Uggg this old trope.
It's not really "borrowing" when they print the money.
It's just another wealth transfer from the poor to the extremely privileged.
M2 money supply actually had not increased for a while and only recently surpassed the previous peak in 2022. Meanwhile US debt and debt to GDP ratio increased modestly (and is in fact down from the COVID era peak 'thanks' to inflation) meaning that it's mostly the treasuries market that was funding the new debt (i.e. borrowing)
With quantitative easing, the two are more similar than different

My esteemed congratulations to 1930's history enthusiasts.
You're about to relive it
I'd say that history rhymes, first as a tragedy, then as a farce, but I know enough of the 30s to understand it was clown shoes then too
What do you mean bread costs 2 million riechdollars. I got a wheel barrel ready for my trump bucks
i'm starting to worry if lisa will actually be able to fix all this after he's gone.... i do not have much confidence in secretary millhouse
so rather than just pay a tax like a socialist country would up front, US is now only just surviving on tariffing ..which is paid … by their own people ….as a tax. On top of whatever tax you already pay ……while digging more deficits.
all while essential services dry up and wither at every level of government....
Bigger shock is that somebody loaned him anything since his bankruptcies have been public knowledge for decades
It’s the federal reserve loaning the government money, there’s no way they’re paying for all this in bond auctions.
Elon should just purchase USA and make it his own private country. I think it's for sale now, based on what I've seen in the last couple of whiles ago.
Ah, Republicans. They make a huge deal about spending any time they are not in power and then spending like a drunk Sailor when in power.
Its a deliberate strategy they've used for the past 50 years. Its called the Two Santa's Strategy.
Are they now over 20 trillions in debt?
You can track it in real time to see just how fucked the US economy is.
It's not really "debt" when the "debtor" prints the money.
It is really debt when it stays on the books and the debtor has to pay interest, and servicing all that debt consumes 15% of the budget.
Still consuming the countries future.
I just saw a study that said if Trump continued on at this rate, he will be responsible for 55% of the national debt. And that was BEFORE the Iran War.
When we get these psychopaths out, and start to rebuild, we already know that they'll suddenly get fiscally conservative, and they'll pretend to be concerned about spending.
When that happens, just take theirs away. THEY are responsible for the debt, so if it bothers them so much, they should be the ones to make the sacrifice to pay it back.
Republican administration completely fucks up the budget, leaves office with massive deficit
Democrat administration spends the next 4 years cleaning up that clusterfuck
GOP tells it's dumbfuck base that it's all the Dems fault that their 1996 Dodge Ram 3500 gets 8 mpg and they're gonna fix everything
Dumbfuck republican voters fall for it, yet again, because they never passed the 9th grade and have been huffing diesel exhaust for the past 20 years
Dumbfuck masses rally and vote in another Republican administration
That cycle has gone on repeat over and over and over again for literally my entire lifetime. It's all I know. That has been my experience with with the US government, for my whole life.
I'm tired, boss.
It's the Two Santa Strategy, they have been doing that since Reagan.
Dumbfucks will always dumbfuck. Trick is to get the voters who stayed home. The numbers I found with a quick search ...
Trump won 49.8% of the popular vote.
Of the 65.3% of the eligible voters who voted.
Which means actually only 32.5% of Americans voted for him, in the sense of "could be arsed to get off the couch and cast a ballot".
That's an encouraging number to work with.