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[–] Reygle@lemmy.world 12 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

As a solitary meat popsicle with limited understanding of fucked up shit, at what "level" of fucked up shit is the US finally and officially "perma-fucked"?
Every time my meat popsicle brain thinks "That's probably the last straw" they find thousands more straws somewhere AND I DON'T GET IT.

[–] TeddE@lemmy.world 5 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

That was back at the moment when Trump threw around enough tariffs to make countries with longstanding enmity sign direct trade deals with each other, cutting us out as the middleman. Those will never, ever come back (they were mostly forged in the wake of WWII, when the US had the only functional economy)

As for when we'll see it? I think we have a "oh shit" world stage moment if the US tries to attack Greenland, as Denmark will then have to defend - and then by chain of treaties WWIII kicks off.

If we avoid that fate somehow, then there probably won't be a specific moment - the US will over twenty or so years just slowly collapse in on itself and other countries will quietly start ignoring US while publicly paying lip service. … - There will probably be an event when we publicly can't afford the giant military we have which will be an existential crisis for a news cycle.

That's my attempt to read the tea leaves in the crystal ball.

[–] Reygle@lemmy.world 5 points 12 hours ago (2 children)

I'm going to start fantasizing about 15 years from now being invaded by Canada and running out into the street to thank them for it

[–] T00l_shed@lemmy.world 3 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

Hey hoser, I'll be happy t'a meet ya there with a brewski.

[–] Reygle@lemmy.world 3 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

We'll exchange brewskis, insult each others' brands, and shakes hands abouts it.

[–] T00l_shed@lemmy.world 3 points 8 hours ago

Sounds like a plan!

[–] TeddE@lemmy.world 4 points 12 hours ago

May the streets run red with maple leaves

[–] BigDanishGuy@sh.itjust.works 7 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

I didn't know the US was going to med school. That thing was expensive!

[–] SoleInvictus@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 12 hours ago

Then you won't believe this: it's the Phil McGraw School of Medicine at RFK Jr. University. The dean is Dr. Mehmet Oz.

[–] Passerby6497@lemmy.world 46 points 19 hours ago* (last edited 19 hours ago) (1 children)

Oh man, this must be that FiScAl ReSpOnSiBiLiTy I keep hearing about from the ~~reich~~ right

[–] explodicle@sh.itjust.works 7 points 18 hours ago

Even years ago, you could tell how honest the Tea Party people were by asking if they'd defund the police or military.

[–] technocrit@lemmy.dbzer0.com 19 points 17 hours ago* (last edited 17 hours ago) (2 children)

Uggg this old trope.

It's not really "borrowing" when they print the money.

It's just another wealth transfer from the poor to the extremely privileged.

[–] lbfgs@programming.dev 2 points 12 hours ago

M2 money supply actually had not increased for a while and only recently surpassed the previous peak in 2022. Meanwhile US debt and debt to GDP ratio increased modestly (and is in fact down from the COVID era peak 'thanks' to inflation) meaning that it's mostly the treasuries market that was funding the new debt (i.e. borrowing)

[–] pancakes@sh.itjust.works 3 points 15 hours ago

With quantitative easing, the two are more similar than different

[–] FosterMolasses@leminal.space 38 points 23 hours ago (2 children)

My esteemed congratulations to 1930's history enthusiasts.

You're about to relive it

[–] captainlezbian@lemmy.world 9 points 19 hours ago

I'd say that history rhymes, first as a tragedy, then as a farce, but I know enough of the 30s to understand it was clown shoes then too

[–] TronBronson@lemmy.world 10 points 20 hours ago* (last edited 20 hours ago)

What do you mean bread costs 2 million riechdollars. I got a wheel barrel ready for my trump bucks

[–] zebidiah@lemmy.ca 10 points 18 hours ago* (last edited 18 hours ago)

i'm starting to worry if lisa will actually be able to fix all this after he's gone.... i do not have much confidence in secretary millhouse

[–] Smoogs@lemmy.world 39 points 1 day ago (8 children)

so rather than just pay a tax like a socialist country would up front, US is now only just surviving on tariffing ..which is paid … by their own people ….as a tax. On top of whatever tax you already pay ……while digging more deficits.

[–] zebidiah@lemmy.ca 3 points 17 hours ago

all while essential services dry up and wither at every level of government....

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[–] Sam_Bass@lemmy.world 16 points 22 hours ago (1 children)

Bigger shock is that somebody loaned him anything since his bankruptcies have been public knowledge for decades

[–] TronBronson@lemmy.world 11 points 20 hours ago* (last edited 20 hours ago) (5 children)

It’s the federal reserve loaning the government money, there’s no way they’re paying for all this in bond auctions.

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[–] melsaskca@lemmy.ca 8 points 20 hours ago

Elon should just purchase USA and make it his own private country. I think it's for sale now, based on what I've seen in the last couple of whiles ago.

[–] MrSulu@lemmy.ml 54 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Overseen by man with significant history of refusing to repay loans.

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[–] opus86@lemmy.today 56 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Ah, Republicans. They make a huge deal about spending any time they are not in power and then spending like a drunk Sailor when in power.

[–] core@leminal.space 10 points 21 hours ago (1 children)

Its a deliberate strategy they've used for the past 50 years. Its called the Two Santa's Strategy.

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[–] MonkderVierte@lemmy.zip 8 points 21 hours ago (4 children)

Are they now over 20 trillions in debt?

[–] ___@lemmy.blahaj.zone 10 points 19 hours ago (1 children)
[–] SaveTheTuaHawk@lemmy.ca 2 points 13 hours ago

You can track it in real time to see just how fucked the US economy is.

https://www.usdebtclock.org/

[–] phoenixz@lemmy.ca 6 points 19 hours ago (1 children)

20? That was years ago, no? It's somewhere in the deep 30s now

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[–] technocrit@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 17 hours ago* (last edited 17 hours ago) (2 children)

It's not really "debt" when the "debtor" prints the money.

[–] Kazumara@discuss.tchncs.de 1 points 12 hours ago* (last edited 12 hours ago)

It is really debt when it stays on the books and the debtor has to pay interest, and servicing all that debt consumes 15% of the budget.

[–] MonkderVierte@lemmy.zip 3 points 17 hours ago* (last edited 17 hours ago)

Still consuming the countries future.

[–] BarneyPiccolo@lemmy.today 74 points 1 day ago (9 children)

I just saw a study that said if Trump continued on at this rate, he will be responsible for 55% of the national debt. And that was BEFORE the Iran War.

When we get these psychopaths out, and start to rebuild, we already know that they'll suddenly get fiscally conservative, and they'll pretend to be concerned about spending.

When that happens, just take theirs away. THEY are responsible for the debt, so if it bothers them so much, they should be the ones to make the sacrifice to pay it back.

[–] RandallFlagg@lemmy.world 37 points 1 day ago (6 children)

Republican administration completely fucks up the budget, leaves office with massive deficit

Democrat administration spends the next 4 years cleaning up that clusterfuck

GOP tells it's dumbfuck base that it's all the Dems fault that their 1996 Dodge Ram 3500 gets 8 mpg and they're gonna fix everything

Dumbfuck republican voters fall for it, yet again, because they never passed the 9th grade and have been huffing diesel exhaust for the past 20 years

Dumbfuck masses rally and vote in another Republican administration

That cycle has gone on repeat over and over and over again for literally my entire lifetime. It's all I know. That has been my experience with with the US government, for my whole life.

I'm tired, boss.

[–] duncan_bayne@lemmy.world 8 points 22 hours ago

Dumbfucks will always dumbfuck. Trick is to get the voters who stayed home. The numbers I found with a quick search ...

Trump won 49.8% of the popular vote.

Of the 65.3% of the eligible voters who voted.

Which means actually only 32.5% of Americans voted for him, in the sense of "could be arsed to get off the couch and cast a ballot".

That's an encouraging number to work with.

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