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President Trump said he would talk to Canadian Prime Minister Mark Carney about making Canada the 51st state. But the president said he didn't expect it to get to the point of using military force — though he wouldn't commit to the same for Greenland. 

"Something could happen with Greenland, I'll be honest," Trump said in an interview with NBC News' "Meet the Press" that aired on Sunday.  He said that "we need that for national and international security," but he added "I don't see it with Canada. I just don't see it."

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[–] RedditIsDeddit@lemmy.world 12 points 7 hours ago

Trump sounds more like Putin every hour.

[–] Montreal_Metro@lemmy.ca 1 points 4 hours ago* (last edited 4 hours ago)

Americans aren’t doing anything about it. Just sitting there taking it. If you’re not doing anything to fight Trump then as far as I’m concerned you’re part of the problem.

[–] SocialMediaRefugee@lemmy.world 3 points 6 hours ago (2 children)

Put NATO forces there so the US would invoke the mutual defense clause.

[–] RedditIsDeddit@lemmy.world 4 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

There are already NATO forces there. Specifically Denmark and USA

[–] SocialMediaRefugee@lemmy.world 0 points 5 hours ago* (last edited 4 hours ago)

Well the US forces are the issue, right? Denmark has neglected Greenland militarily for years. Under the NATO treaty they don't HAVE to respond to an attack on a member so if there were forces from other members there it would greatly increase the likelihood of a joint response.

[–] samus12345@lemm.ee 3 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

US Sends Troops to Greenland to Defend it From US Troops

[–] SocialMediaRefugee@lemmy.world 3 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

Or see how fast they withdraw from NATO and form a new alliance.

According to Article 13 of the 1949 NATO treaty, members can declare their withdrawal, but the document does not provide for a member to be expelled. The only measure the treaty provides to sanction serious violations of the alliance's principles is a joint decision by the other member states to restrict or suspend cooperation.

[–] samus12345@lemm.ee 1 points 4 hours ago* (last edited 4 hours ago)

The US military is such an essential part of NATO that if they don't withdraw, a new alliance should definitely be made.

[–] Ironfist79@lemmy.world 7 points 8 hours ago (7 children)

Why is he so obsessed with Greenland?

[–] SocialMediaRefugee@lemmy.world 7 points 6 hours ago* (last edited 4 hours ago) (2 children)

Mineral resources, especially since the ice is melting. They don't believe in global warming but they accept that the ice cap is melting. Then there are fishing rights around it. Finally it would control a chunk of the arctic ocean at a time when the north ice cap is melting.

[–] captainWhatsHisName@lemm.ee 3 points 4 hours ago

They believe in global warming. They just say they don’t because they’re lying psychopaths who would kill millions for their own gain.

[–] Halcyon@discuss.tchncs.de 3 points 5 hours ago

Shipping routes will be there in the not-so-far future when the ice is gone.

[–] davidagain@lemmy.world 7 points 6 hours ago

Easy target from his perspective. Would draw Nato resources away from Ukraine, so his boss would be pleased.

When Trump does something incomprehensibly useless from an American perspective, always ask "What's in it for Putin?" and you may find you get answers.

[–] CircaV@lemmy.ca 10 points 8 hours ago* (last edited 8 hours ago)

Cause Peter Thiel (billionaire) wants to build a billionaire's bunker there for the apocalypse.

[–] RedditIsDeddit@lemmy.world 5 points 7 hours ago* (last edited 7 hours ago)

Theres a few reasons but it would be a huge military advantage, not that I agree with it

[–] SunshineJogger@feddit.org 2 points 8 hours ago

Natural resources perhaps?

[–] Oderus@lemmy.world 2 points 8 hours ago

He probably thinks it's actually green.

[–] CircaV@lemmy.ca 5 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

Damn right. Cause the US would deputize 40 million insurgents both in and out of Canada if they ever tried.

[–] RedditIsDeddit@lemmy.world 1 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

It would be a very stupid and long battle for nothing

[–] CircaV@lemmy.ca 1 points 2 hours ago

We’d take so many with us. And we’d go full scorched Earth.

[–] PunkRockSportsFan@fanaticus.social 50 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I look forward to his funeral

[–] epicstove@lemmy.ca 8 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

The Margaret Thatcher of the US.

[–] PunkRockSportsFan@fanaticus.social 8 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

It’s a little different:

Thatcher fucked the kids.

Donald Trump fucks kids.

[–] epicstove@lemmy.ca 6 points 8 hours ago

Maggie the milk snatcher vs. Donnie the Diddler.

[–] andybytes@programming.dev 20 points 1 day ago

Only if that kid was a better shot.

[–] intheformbelow@lemmy.world 10 points 22 hours ago (1 children)

I consider the US our enemy. Even if we come to an agreement at this point, it's the duty of every Canadian to backstab the US when such an opportunity arises. There can no longer be peaceful co-existence unless the US is split apart. Every Canadian employed by an american employer should start stealing IP and sabotaging operations. This is just the beginning.

[–] phoenixz@lemmy.ca 36 points 1 day ago

I could start WWIII, I can see that happening

Don't you love trump?

[–] BotsRuinedEverything@lemmy.world 47 points 1 day ago (16 children)

There is no way, in hell, that Trump plans on making Canadians into American citizens. Why would he add the equivalent of another California to the voting population. No Canadian will ever cast a vote in favor of the political party that took their country from them.

What version of statehood is he envisioning here?

The scariest part here is that the Republicans are acting, in every way, like they will never be subject to a legitimate vote again.

[–] huppakee@lemm.ee 14 points 1 day ago

It's only rumours so far, but according to the new president nobody is going to vote ever again, soo

[–] OutlierBlue@lemmy.ca 27 points 1 day ago

There is no way, in hell, that Trump plans on making Canadians into American voters ~~citizens~~.

We'll be like Guam or Puerto Rico.

[–] smayonak@lemmy.world 28 points 1 day ago

They already answered this question. They would use procedural rules to prevent Canadian votes from mattering, the same as they have done in the US in many states.

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[–] bitjunkie@lemmy.world 43 points 1 day ago

The fact that he's even entertaining this is insane. He needs to be removed from office. Fuck the media for reporting on it like this is just one side of an argument that makes any kind of sense.

[–] PattyMcB@lemmy.world 262 points 2 days ago (8 children)

Reminder to the military: you are not required to follow illegal orders. In fact, you are duty-bound to disobey them

[–] archonet@lemy.lol 93 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (12 children)

I'm quite positive, whether he invades a sovereign nation or not, in some time -- be it five years, ten, or more -- we'll have our own version of the Nuremberg trials. Whoever is still alive that perpetrated or participated in this rape of democracy will be held accountable, someday, because all dictatorships fall.

The only question is how many people have to suffer before then.

[–] skisnow@lemmy.ca 2 points 8 hours ago

America today is not substantially different to the America that dropped more tonnage of bombs on each of Laos and Cambodia than were dropped by the Allies during the whole of WW2, destroying whole villages and murdering hundreds of thousands of innocent civilians in stark violation of international law and the Geneva Convention.

Nobody came even close to being brought to justice for that, so why would things be any different now?

[–] in4apenny@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 1 day ago

Except no mercy this time. No plucking any of them out of the trials to build rockets or create federal intelligence agencies or cutting any deals like the USA did with the Nazi's. Fascists don't believe in mercy anyway so why show them any?

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[–] danekrae@lemmy.world 129 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (3 children)

Threatening war on an ally, a member of the EU and UN; while helping the enemy.

That's not what a russian asset would do...

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[–] phoenixz@lemmy.ca 34 points 1 day ago

Both are a threat with violence and war to independent states, let there be no mistake.

This should not just be condemned politically by every other country, they should boycot the usa

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