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[–] Buffalox@lemmy.world 42 points 19 hours ago (6 children)

Spoiler...
They probably were.

But to be fair, Germans took a lesson from history, at least in the west, in the east however, they covered it up. And so AfD grew from the east with the help of Putin and Trump.

[–] PumpkinSkink@lemmy.world 5 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

I'm not sure that's accurate. I mean, Heusinger, who was a high-ranking member of the Wehrmacht, was later a West German general, and a Chairman at NATO. Definitely striking, but not the only similar example. Denazification was woefully incomplete.

[–] Buffalox@lemmy.world 4 points 9 hours ago* (last edited 9 hours ago)

Just being part of the Wehrmacht doesn't automatically make you guilty.
You also can't put everybody in prison for being a member of the Nazi party.
To exaggerate it a bit, it sounds like you think genocide against Germany was the only moral response, but that is of course not at all moral, and would make the allied forces worse than the Nazis.

[–] ohulancutash@feddit.uk 2 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

It was heavily covered up in W Germany too.

[–] Buffalox@lemmy.world 0 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

Bullshit, after the war it was revealed to the Germans in Western Germany how bad it was.

[–] ohulancutash@feddit.uk 3 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

Post-war, the orthodoxy in German historiography was that Nazism was a crime committed by a small criminal group, that the German people were the victims of this crime, and that there was nothing specifically German about Nazism.

While functionalism emerged in left-wing historical thought in the 60s, whereby the wider population were held not merely victims but enthusiastic participants in Nazism, the orthodoxy sought to rehabilitate the Third Reich.

This culminated in the Bitburg incident in the mid-80s where Reagan and Kohl participated in a public ceremony to honour all the war dead including the SS buried there. Reagan’s justification was that the SS were just as much victims of the Nazi criminality as the European Jews, and that Germany must shed its war guilt.

So no bullshit at all.

[–] Buffalox@lemmy.world 2 points 9 hours ago* (last edited 9 hours ago)

~~You are distorting something that has an element of truth so much that you are losing contact with reality. Neither Reagan or Kohl ever claimed the SS were as much victims as the Jews were. You are guilty of creating fake history, and that is actually a crime in EU!!!!~~

Sorry looked it up, he did say something pretty close to that. And I agree that is insane IMO.

[–] NeilNuggetstrong@lemmy.world 13 points 19 hours ago (1 children)

Shows just how important it is to learn from your country's history

[–] Buffalox@lemmy.world 2 points 15 hours ago

Other countries too.

[–] Tolc@lemmy.world 8 points 17 hours ago* (last edited 17 hours ago) (2 children)

Germans took a lesson from history

Not really

And DDR prosecuted and ran intensive denazification programmes

[–] AngryCommieKender@lemmy.world 4 points 11 hours ago

I knew Dance Dance Revolution was good for something!

[–] forkDestroyer@infosec.pub 1 points 9 hours ago

Wouldn't this be an example of them taking a lesson from their history?

[–] slevinkelevra@sh.itjust.works 7 points 18 hours ago

I just stayed in the east for a few days. Nazis are openly wearing their identifiers there. Saw a couple and instantly knew they were Nazis: Both in the same Lo-NS-dale jackets, boots, the guy with the classic short hair trim plus to make it obvious for even the dumbest person he had a belt striped horizontically in black white red.

[–] varnia@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 points 18 hours ago

Yeah, found both my grandparents who said they didn't know anything and were afraid to act back then.

[–] yesman@lemmy.world 32 points 18 hours ago (1 children)

Something like this may be handy when MAGA's start taking off their hats and peeling off the bumper-stickers.

[–] partofthevoice@lemmy.zip 7 points 14 hours ago

They really aren’t hard to identify. Perhaps they can be a little hard to distinguish from nonvoters in some cases. But otherwise they reek of ignorance, arrogance, and confident incompetence.

[–] benjirenji@slrpnk.net 2 points 12 hours ago

Found some where last name and city name matched, but asked my mom to narrow down the search.

[–] ranslite@pie.dasneuland.de 17 points 19 hours ago (2 children)
[–] porter70000@fedia.io 3 points 13 hours ago
[–] lauha@lemmy.world 3 points 18 hours ago (1 children)

If nationality == german:
return true

[–] ranslite@pie.dasneuland.de 2 points 13 hours ago

sad Sophie Scholl noises

[–] statelesz@slrpnk.net 4 points 18 hours ago

It just defaults to "Yes".

[–] samus12345@sh.itjust.works 1 points 14 hours ago* (last edited 14 hours ago)

My German ancestry predates the Nazis, but I probably have relatives who were.

[–] wheezy@lemmy.ml -4 points 19 hours ago* (last edited 19 hours ago) (1 children)

Does it account for all the Nazis that existed after and still exist there today?

Do I have to link the song? Fine. I'll link the song. I want to hear it anyway.

https://youtu.be/OLkPwxcIji0

Edit: Not picking on Germans. America is really at fault for protecting them after WW2.

[–] the_crotch@sh.itjust.works 4 points 19 hours ago (1 children)

Those are not members of the Nazi party.