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[–] CptHacke@piefed.social 111 points 1 day ago (50 children)

Both are correct. I don't see the Fediverse ever becoming as large as the billionaire platform for the precise reason that it isn't run by billionaires with gigantic advertising budgets. As such, the Fediverse will not have the large numbers of users and hence, will be quieter.

That being said, the Fediverse IS an alternative to the billionaire platforms - especially for people who desire smaller, more intimate communities and - perhaps most importantly - controlled and governed by the people who use it.

[–] reksas@sopuli.xyz 9 points 16 hours ago (1 children)

as long as there are enough people and content here, why should we even care if everyone isnt here? I dont even want every idiot here.

[–] yakko@feddit.uk 5 points 8 hours ago

Preach. I'm happy to only hang out with the sort of people who see the value in social media by the people and for the people. Sometimes it's messy, some of us are kinda annoying, but it's always going to be better than corpo shit.

[–] mayako@lemmy.blahaj.zone 20 points 23 hours ago

This.

One of the reasons that billionaire controlled tech platforms become so mainstream IS their ability to grow and spread, and eventually become de facto means of communication online.

This allows them to break out of the early adopter, technical space and spread to a wider audience

[–] architect@thelemmy.club 2 points 16 hours ago

I think we need to be okay with less users because the billionaire platforms use bots, anyways.

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[–] DeathByBigSad@sh.itjust.works 9 points 16 hours ago (2 children)

Given how much "guilluotine memes" are on here...

no, this is not a "billionaire platform"

[–] TheFonz@lemmy.world 2 points 6 hours ago

The memes are distraction fodder. It's like an amusement park so we never move into prescriptive discourse

[–] Melvin_Ferd@lemmy.world 2 points 15 hours ago

My point is for how long? At some point it either dies out or becomes popular enough to attract that attention. And so I'm asking now, because we never did with the other sites, what can we do to prevent it. Because these spaces are running out rapidly.

[–] TheFonz@lemmy.world 0 points 7 hours ago* (last edited 7 hours ago) (1 children)

Lemmy is quickly becoming (maybe it always was) a self masturbatory exercise in anti-capitalist Marxist thought. Don't get me wrong, we need to fight capitalism at every moment. This is THE moment.

However, what I've gleaned is that the discussion here cannot step away from theory into the realm of prescriptions. Because prescriptions would entail confronting the harsh reality of the real world and end the little intellectual amusement park that are the lefty anti-capitalist memes.

In other words, Lemmy is acting exactly as designed: a containment space for tankie and lefties to never have to contend with real world actions. Billionaires love spaces like Lemmy because if we ever move the conversation away from memes, thats when they start shaking. But they know exactly that won't happen in places like Lemmy. The merry-go-round is just so much fun!

[–] EndlessNightmare@reddthat.com 2 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

In a word: distraction. Alternately, the "circuses" in "bread and circuses"

[–] TheFonz@lemmy.world 1 points 6 hours ago

Correct, but it's sort of self inflicted because the high level discourse is what's valuable here. Would you like to dissect the labor theory of value? You're in the right place!

[–] bdonvr@thelemmy.club 4 points 17 hours ago (1 children)

Billionaire Lemmy admins? Where do I get my check?

[–] Melvin_Ferd@lemmy.world 1 points 15 hours ago

I don't know your experience with being online but I'm telling you that what you said was said mockingly about other sites too and it turned out to be true

[–] anon6789@lemmy.world 14 points 23 hours ago (9 children)

Getting mad at the people here just to have fun is about as useful as the people that come here just to stir up trouble. If people aren't having fun here, people aren't going to join or stay.

I post daily animal content. Anyone just scrolling can just scroll and click on cute animal and move on with life. But for those that want to read the posts, you will find ample opportunities of all varieties to get involved. As much as I'd like it to be different, everyone on here has their own reasons they can't or won't get involved, but a couple might. It's gotten me to work at a rescue for 2 years now, and one or 2 others have DMed me saying they got involved with places I've helped them find, and a handful more have done things to make their homes more suitable to bring back animals or donated to places doing amazing rescue work. It's not changing the world, but it hasn't been pointless.

We've got some communities that I think are great, like Dull Men's Club. Again, everyday activities, but it's people doing small acts to make something better than it was. I'd love to have activists here teaching folks how to unionize, set up aid programs, etc, but the pool of those folks is very small. The news and politics communities we have do seem to be full of a number of very outspoken and angry people. It turns me off to participating in most threads. It's not surrounding one's self in an echo chamber or safe space, but most of us deal with enough IRL obnoxious people to want to do it more here. I read the article if it's interesting and skip the comments. I'd probably like talking about a lot of the events with people here, but not if the same handful of obnoxious people are going to insert themselves into every thread, but that is what happens in a public forum. Until someone creates and mods better communities and has the patience to be trashed daily in Power Trippin Mods because it's effectually impossible to ban people, this is what we're going to have.

It's sad I can't recommend Lemmy to most people I know. I think about not posting here anymore from time to time, but the platform is a good size for me to handle my audience, and there are a ton of really great users here. My content doesn't pull in the angry crowd typically either. But as a whole, we got a lot of anger, misplaced or not, being the first things new folks are going to see. I'm not huge into the memes or comics a lot of the time, but people generally are going to react much more positively to that than more anarchy/communist rage posts.

[–] AskewLord@piefed.social 7 points 22 hours ago* (last edited 22 hours ago) (1 children)

the problem is the angry commies, etc. are the most prolific and aggressive users. if your funny meme gets any decent traction... they come storming in because they see an opportunity to push their propaganda and bully people.

not a day goes by here where I am not told I am an ignorant capitalist facist, or worse. often in a community or post that has nothing to do with any of that.

[–] anon6789@lemmy.world 6 points 21 hours ago (1 children)

Oh, I hear you. I just scolded all the bloodthirsty folks on the post of the hunter getting killed by the elephants. I await that massive downvoting, nevermind I'm one of the few (only?) wildlife rescue people on this platform. The dude seemed innocent and law abiding and well liked in the local community where he was savagely killed and people here are cheering.

It's also getting pretty sketchy with all the Israel comments. I've always been pro-Palestine, but every day the comments seem to be a little less anti-Israel colonialism and more to the Jews secretly run the world and all Jews support zionism side of things. There is so much gatekeeping in the news and political groups here. I really hesitate to participate anymore, which is a shame compared to how things felt at the API Exodus.

I felt pretty far left before I joined up here. I might still be. I was interested in anarchism and communism before spending so much time here. Now I'm not anti that stuff, but yeah, I don't need to hear any more about it right now. I'll keep doing my own thing over here and I'm fine being unaffiliated with a label on what my beliefs are.

Everyone was so scared of being a bad mod, but mods are what keep us from getting to where good users move out because the ones that chase them out while not technically breaking community rules do their thing. It's a thankless job, and that's why I have no desire to be one, but I am forever greatful for good mods.

[–] AskewLord@piefed.social 4 points 21 hours ago

Yeah, on certain hot topic issues there is no clarity or perspective, just blind rage and hate. And if you try to inject and perspective or context on them, well you get threatened, reported, and your comments will be removed.

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