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Trump belittles Canada before Carney meeting: 'We don’t need ANYTHING they have' (www.cnbc.com)
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[–] gravitas_deficiency@sh.itjust.works 125 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (3 children)

We don't need their Cars, we don't need their Energy, we don't need their Lumber, we don't need ANYTHING they have, other than their friendship, which hopefully we will always maintain," Trump wrote.

Hey, Canada, seriously, you should just halt all exports to the US at the border if that’s his position. Call our bluff. Help our imbecilic government and my deeply idiotic countrymen Find Out. I am being extremely serious.

Edit: jesus fucking christ. From the NYT briefing on their meeting, as it is happening right fucking now:

President Trump and Prime Minister Mark Carney of Canada praised each other in the Oval Office during the first meeting between the two leaders since Mr. Carney won a stunning election on an anti-Trump platform. Mr. Trump struck a conciliatory tone, saying he had “a lot of respect” for Mr. Carney, who praised the president for his “relentless focus on the American worker.” But after Mr. Trump talked about his calls for Canada to be the 51st state, Mr. Carney said “some places are not for sale.” Mr. Trump did not concede: “Never say never.”

Fuck my entire life, I hate this timeline so much

[–] givesomefucks@lemmy.world 59 points 4 days ago (2 children)

We literally need their energy...

They can flip a switch and large parts of northern US loses power, and it's not like we can just flip the switch back, because the switch is in Canada.

Fucking flip it, stop normalizing trump and start treating him like he treats people, he'd have flipped the switch and broken it off already if the situation was reversed.

I say this as an American; other countries need to stop protecting us from our bad decisions or as a country we'll keep making bad decisions. There has to be consequences

[–] Kirp123@lemmy.world 24 points 4 days ago (3 children)

I don't think Canada wants to hurt so many innocent people because Trump runs his mouth.

Cutting electricity doesn't only mean it's stopping kids from playing Fortnite or something. It also means cutting it from infrastructure, hospitals, hospices and many other healthcare facilities, water pumping and treatment, traffic control and so on. Trump won't suffer because any of that happening, random people will.

Sure some people may have voted for Trump but a whole lot didn't. They don't deserve that.

[–] BrokenGlepnir@lemmy.world 10 points 4 days ago (2 children)

Also depending on where in the north it is, perhaps people who voted against this. Punishing new York for the sins of Pennsylvania seems counter productive.

[–] Auli@lemmy.ca 4 points 3 days ago

Can we stop pushing this lie. 43 percent of the people who voted in new York voted for Trump. Then there are the people who couldn't be bothered to vote.

[–] anomnom@sh.itjust.works 2 points 3 days ago (1 children)

It’s a lot of upstate (redder) NY that would lose power. But it’s still not going to hurt Trump enough to justify.

[–] BrokenGlepnir@lemmy.world 1 points 3 days ago

I wasn't entirely aware, so thank you. I was just using NY as an example. It could have been Maine, Vermont, or Washington. And maybe for each of them it would be the redder area. I wasn't as aware as I should have been. Looking it up I think it was a good guess, because it is new York. However it's Vermont too. A cursory glance says it's not Maine though.

[–] Rhaedas@fedia.io 5 points 4 days ago

You're right. It's part of why we continue to play this game instead of pulling the bandaid off. Our reality is built around so many damn Catch-22s that we're paralyzed to make rational choices anymore.

[–] givesomefucks@lemmy.world 1 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

I don’t think Canada wants to hurt so many innocent people because Trump runs his mouth

If that's true, that's backwards logic.

Because Trump is hurting a lot more people, and while unlikely if his voters feel the pain they will realize it's not working. Congress can hold trump accountable, but they won't until well into the "find out" phase.

So our traditional allies shielding the American people from our own government may seem like the ethical move, but only if focused on today and ignoring the future...

Which is how we ended up here.

Long term, America needs consequences yesterday, but we'll have to settle for today

Quick edit:

Sure some people may have voted for Trump but a whole lot didn’t. They don’t deserve that.

As close as majorities are, a handful of seats getting pressured is all it would take. You think there ain't a single red district getting their power from Canada?

You think Montana is a deep blue area?

https://connect2canada.com/2022/04/mapping-the-canada-u-s-energy-relationship-2/

It really doesn't take many people to switch to take congress back, but if we never pressure them, they'll never fold.

[–] gravitas_deficiency@sh.itjust.works 8 points 4 days ago

No, I know we do.

I’m say they should flip the switch. Call our bluff. I really do mean it. Because it is a bluff.

[–] Makeitstop@lemmy.world 10 points 4 days ago (1 children)

As disgusting as it is, he's a lot more likely to make progress with some narrowly constructed flattery than with overt criticism no matter how well deserved.

Trump is a narcissistic manbaby who would do damn near anything just to satisfy his own ego. It makes him particularly vulnerable to manipulation, and at the same time it makes it virtually impossible for him to take criticism without throwing a tantrum and doubling down on whatever shitty thing he's doing.

[–] shawn1122@lemm.ee 3 points 3 days ago

I mean he called Trump transformational which I think anyone with a brain will understand but his supporters will see as a compliment.

There was some very carefully constructed language being used here which I think is a good first step.

It should also be noted that Carney said 'Never' five times when Trump said Never say Never but I don't think Carney was visible on the American broadcast.

[–] redsand@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 4 days ago (1 children)

NYT is as prestigious as the NYP now. Failed, garbage journalists all of them.

[–] gravitas_deficiency@sh.itjust.works 6 points 4 days ago

This is less about the quality of the NYT these days than it is about the verbatim transcript of the interchange that they posted

[–] corsicanguppy@lemmy.ca 22 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (1 children)

Then SHUT IT OFF

  • oil
  • power
  • peat
  • wood
  • Maple syrup
  • apologies

Check the free trade agreement -- it covers WHEN things are sold, not whether they're sold at all. I think we can just shut it off without breaking the agreement.

[–] Archer@lemmy.world 5 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Shutting off apologies!? Goddamn you’re not playing

[–] futatorius@lemm.ee 2 points 3 days ago

"Sorry, not sorry."

[–] bender223@lemmy.today 25 points 4 days ago (1 children)

we need their universal healthcare 🥺

[–] corsicanguppy@lemmy.ca 6 points 3 days ago (1 children)

We also need our healthcare to be a little better. It was really battered after all the ignorant anti-vax hillbillies made up the bulk of the people deathly sick from covid AND bullying the doctors trying to to save them. Doctors realized life is too short for dickwads and retired en masse.

Right now our scumbag cons are trying to make it more and more mercenary as they go, and that's tougher to prevent with so many roles going unfilled.

So we really need that built back up and then we'd be proud to show it off.

[–] MegaUltraChicken@lemmy.world 3 points 3 days ago

Good news! The US is currently exporting a bunch of our skilled people so you guys will definitely get some doctors from that. The brain drain is going to hurt for generations.

[–] SpaceShort@feddit.uk 15 points 4 days ago (1 children)

So why does he want to annex it?

[–] MrMcGasion@lemmy.world 6 points 3 days ago (1 children)

I wish I was joking, but he doesn't like the straight line border on the map. He wants to "get rid of that artificially drawn line."

[–] fluxion@lemmy.world 17 points 4 days ago

Then STFU about annexing them

[–] justOnePersistentKbinPlease@fedia.io 19 points 4 days ago

Dont need their cars

• Ontario makes the high precision parts of Ford and GM vehicles that literally can't be made in the US or Mexico because workers there dont have the skill.

Dont need their lumber

• The US lumber lobby has spent 20 years trying to break the lumber industry here, for the express purpose pf getting unfettered access to Canadian logs.

Don't need their water

• Little Bitch is more than old enough to remember that access to Canadian water was one of the sticking points that very nearly derailed the original NAFTA, to the point that several of the provisions are designed such that if they could get any access to our water, they would immediately get access to all of our water

[–] roofTophopper@lemmy.world 8 points 3 days ago

All talk. During the meeting this fucker wimped out and only stared at the floor while Carney spoke. Trump didn't even pick up that he got insulted and told off.

You could see he wanted to say something, but could barely squeak the words out. Fucking coward.

[–] RedditIsDeddit@lemmy.world 13 points 4 days ago

If Canada has nothing we want... what the fuck are you talking about Donnie? Moron.

[–] dhork@lemmy.world 15 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

And to think, in an alternate universe, Trump is ruining the Buffalo Bills instead of the country. What do you think they're drinking when they tailgate, Donnie? It ain't Budweiser....

https://apnews.com/article/donald-trump-bankers-fraud-trial-buffalo-bills-nfl-c4cfa0af0247cf70f436341a2fa64dd0

[–] TommySoda@lemmy.world 14 points 4 days ago

I watched the whole interview and holy shit the amount of mindless babbling coming out of Trumps mouth about the basically nothing was ridiculous. This man spent a good 5 - 10 minutes complaining about Obama, Biden, and Newsom and barely even let Carney speak. I'm glad he at least got to mention that "51st state" thing at least and shut that down immediately.

[–] wirebeads@lemmy.ca 12 points 4 days ago (2 children)

Honestly: I just want this old cunt to die already. (Trump, not Carney)

On his way out, he can take Nutlick with him as well, fucking piece of shit that he is.

[–] billiam0202@lemmy.world 5 points 4 days ago

On his way out, he can take Nutlick with him as well, fucking piece of shit that he is.

Anyone who wants to slave people and their children and their grandchildren to factory work, but doesn't volunteer himself or his children or his grandchildren, can shut the biggest fuck it's possible to up.

[–] Catma@lemmy.world 5 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Is Nutlick, Howard Lutnick or the line of people who gargle Trump's smegma at every given chance?

[–] wirebeads@lemmy.ca 3 points 4 days ago

You nailed it. Nutlick is Lutnicks alter ego.

[–] RampantParanoia2365@lemmy.world 7 points 4 days ago (1 children)

This looks to me like proof of full on dementia.

[–] futatorius@lemm.ee 1 points 3 days ago

It's conclusive proof that he's a pig-ignorant asshole.

[–] thepenismightier@lemm.ee 7 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Potash. Other big producers are Russia, China, and Belarus...

[–] Makeitstop@lemmy.world 10 points 4 days ago

Just wait, before you know it Russia will be our biggest trading partner, with their chief export being all the shit we were buying from China but now with a cut lining Putin’s pocket.

[–] pubquiz@lemmy.world 5 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Diahrreal verbal slop. He's (Trump) a clearly disconnected from reality crushed brain. He's disgusting as a living ad for dementia disabling capabilities. He believes his own lies.

[–] futatorius@lemm.ee 1 points 3 days ago

He believes his own lies.

And yet he'll say the opposite in a few days and act like he believes that too.

[–] BrianTheeBiscuiteer@lemmy.world 4 points 4 days ago

"I don't want to hang out, don't want to borrow money, don't want to bum rides off you, and I don't want any support when times are tough for me. I just want you to be my friend."

Yep, that's how I strengthened all of my relationships... that still even exist.

[–] TwinTitans@lemmy.world 2 points 4 days ago

LOL. Is this guy fucking serious?! 😂😂😂

[–] aubeynarf@lemmynsfw.com 1 points 4 days ago

yes, we do, I need that lumber to build my deck!

[–] TropicalDingdong@lemmy.world 0 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Um.

2x4's

[–] badbrainstorm@lemmy.world 4 points 4 days ago

Nah, they're just gonna level the redwoods, and other national parks. Fire maintenance of all those matchsticks or some bullshit