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[–] SethTaylor@lemmy.world 32 points 1 day ago (4 children)

I remember when people complained about sound coming from wind turbines. That was bad

This? Good

[–] echodot@feddit.uk 3 points 1 day ago

There's a wind farm near my house and I suppose they do make sound although the only time I was ever able to hear it was during the height of the lockdowns because there's a massive highway between me and them and that's definitely louder. They definitely don't produce infrared sound though, but way too big and the blades move way too slowly.

[–] badgermurphy@lemmy.world 11 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

It does matter if the complaints are real or fabricated, turns out. Research on that topic confirmed that wind turbines generate very little infrasound, further reduced by their great distance from the ground. The amounts in question are less than that generated by other ubiquitous machines, so it is very safe to conclude that those complaints are phony, advanced by enemies of alternative energy.

I can't speak to the validity of these complaints, but there are a lot more motors running a lot faster in a data center than in a wind power generator, so it is at least plausible. The research will demonstrate if this complaint is valid or just more activism.

[–] sup@sh.itjust.works 17 points 1 day ago

Just looked up, a windturbine has less infrasound then cars. (german Source) I would guess the datacenter could have more infrasound and thus be a bigger problem. They mention a study about windturbine infrasound and they point towards nocebo effect, but maybe windturbines are at a border where the health effects are very difficult to measure. So maybe studies about the infrasound of datacenters could find something. On the other hand, datacenters bring a lot more pollution factors, like light-, air- and waterpollution.

[–] mfed1122@discuss.tchncs.de 10 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I dislike hypocrisy as much as the next person. So I feel where you're coming from. At the same time, the wind turbines are generating power that everyone benefits from, whereas these things are consuming power for a product that very few people actually like or even want to exist. So I think its fair to say that maybe the noise is tolerable when you're getting something you actually want out of it. Also, wind farms are usually built further away from large population centers, whereas data centers are because it's cheaper to build them in areas with lots of people around. So the concern does seem a little more irrelevant to wind farming as a whole than data centers.

[–] wabasso@lemmy.ca 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Just out of curiosity, what makes them cheaper to build in populated areas? Doesn’t that mean the land value is higher when purchasing/leasing the site?

[–] mfed1122@discuss.tchncs.de 6 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (2 children)

The article alludes to it: "The United States does not lack flat, open land away from population centers on which to build data centers. However, AI hyperscalers prefer to locate their campuses near existing infrastructure so they don’t have to spend massive amounts of time and resources building everything from scratch."

It costs a lotta money to run electricity and water to the middle of nowhere.

Also, companies are doing research to specifically build in areas where they believe the local community is not politically empowered to prevent it from being built. This guy goes into some more depth at this timestamp: https://youtu.be/1CpVmPh3BDE?t=831

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[–] Etterra@discuss.online 27 points 2 days ago
[–] CanIFishHere@lemmy.ca 13 points 1 day ago (3 children)

Let's use science to determine what is happening.This can be measured. Use a blind study to evaluate the impact.

[–] GreenKnight23@lemmy.world 9 points 1 day ago (2 children)

aren't blind people more susceptible to auditory stimulus? wouldn't that skew the numbers?

/s

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[–] betanumerus@lemmy.ca 8 points 1 day ago (2 children)

"3.7 MWh of power annually" - With authors like this, it's no wonder some people find math and science confusing. I actually thought Toms Hardware was a quality site.

[–] spacesatan@lazysoci.al 11 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

Ok technically it's energy not power, big deal. Sometimes electricity is colloquially called power.

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[–] rumba@lemmy.zip 2 points 1 day ago

Toms used to be solid. I can't place my finger on it, but sometime around the 2010's everyone stopped using them as references and they slid somewhat into obscurity.

[–] Kolanaki@pawb.social 11 points 1 day ago

Me when an AI data center is too close:

[–] Deebster@infosec.pub 146 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

My first thought was that Benn Jordan did a great bit of video journalism on this, but it's already linked from the article, although without any other mention of it.

[–] yggstyle@lemmy.world 58 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (7 children)

Dude is just a wealth of interesting videos.

Edit and speaking of which.... He dropped this doozy today: https://youtu.be/lA8WuXDXfcI

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[–] OldQWERTYbastard@lemmy.dbzer0.com 48 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (8 children)

There's a local council in my community that is gunning for an AI data center in my county. People are livid, but I don't think it's going to be enough to stop the construction. It's shady as fuck with hidden shareholders that nobody will reveal.

I'm open to any and all suggestions on how to prevent this data center from being built. Peaceful ideas or otherwise.

[–] BarneyPiccolo@lemmy.cafe 10 points 1 day ago

When they come up with it on their own, and push it relentlessly despite obvious and enormous resistance from the citizens, you know they been paid off handsomely.

[–] Tollana1234567@lemmy.today 14 points 2 days ago

they likely paid off the politicians before hand, remember janet mills in maine, she basically allowed one to be built and vetoed any measure to block it.

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[–] Tollana1234567@lemmy.today 15 points 2 days ago (12 children)

even if the infrasound is debunked, the pollution, the power usage, cost would be much more annoying.

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[–] yesman@lemmy.world 61 points 2 days ago (30 children)

Is there any research on this?

Back in the 90s, there was a theory that living near power-lines was unhealthy, but later shown to be bunk. Also similar to "electro magnetic sensitivity" like Chuck in "Better Call Saul". Does inaudible sound effect people's health?

[–] Jesus_666@lemmy.world 95 points 2 days ago (13 children)

Yes, infrasound is a fairly well understood phenomenon. Loud noise at frequencies below 10 Hz isn't commonly picked up by recording equipment but can induce things like anxiety, nausea, and sleep problems. While recently wind power plants have sometimes been accused of generating it, it's also been caused by industrial fans and even resonance in a building's ductwork.

It wouldn't surprise me if a data center's AC caused enough noise at frequencies not normally monitored to become an issue.

[–] SolarMonkey@slrpnk.net 54 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (2 children)

Pipelines also cause a resonance hum that some people CAN hear for miles, and it drives them batshit.

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[–] Redvenom@retrolemmy.com 21 points 2 days ago (6 children)

Funny how they look so flammable

[–] Cherry@piefed.social 2 points 1 day ago

You have to use the correct messaging - data centers are making kids gay and entitled! and are owned by progressive libs

/s

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