I say the following as a current Jellyfin user who stopped using Plex for privacy reasons: Plex making it easy to share your library outside of your LAN is an absolutely gigantic point in its favour. I don't understand why so many Jellyfin people seem unable or unwilling to understand or acknowledge this.
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I'm surprised there is not a service specifically attempting to fill this gap.
It would have to be paid, the exact thing that jellyfin evangelists despise……while half of them happily subscribe and pay $ for a VPS just so they don’t have to subscribe to Plex while having a much worse experience 🤣
JellyFin users seem to be like Linux users.
Reading this thread, it seems like two different groups of people are having two different conversations.
For me, self-hosting is just that, running my own stuff at home for myself (and my immediate family). My motivation is privacy and freedom. I want to use services that are free of commercial incentives against my interests whenever possible. That usually means self-hosting my services.
I've been a system and network engineer for most of my career and I like configuring and managing stuff. I like knowing how everything on my home network runs, where and what data is shared, etc.
As soon as people start talking about "my users need ..." I'm out. That sounds too much like what I do at work. I want to relax when I'm at home. Jellyfin is perfect for me to do that with my content without needing any of my data to go to any companies.
For everyone who wants to be an IPTV operator, Plex is the best choice right now. Jellyfin isn't really focused on that use case.
Jellyfin is awesome for local use, Plex is better at sharing libraries with friends and family and jellyfin is total ass for music
I run jellyfin
I stopped trying for the music side.
Right tool for the right job. Switched to navidrome and am consuming it mainly through subsonic clients, such as Symphonium and Feishin.
For music you've got to add a background and make it a 'music video', then it works, but mostly it's for video
I don't know if it's improved, but I was only put off by the memory footprint on windows. Plex was running more efficiently and does look more polished. This was also impart as I now use Channels for my live TV purposes as nothing else really comes close.
It's still installed and ready to go if I need to make the switch but I don't really have a big enough reason to do it. Too many other things to tinker with.
Problem is access outside your home for family and friends.
There are serious security gaps that make it a non starter to expose to the internet.
I've been using Jellyfin ever since they forked out of Envy, and honestly, it's the biggest complaint that I have. It is incredibly difficult to make it available to friends and family who are on various devices, networks, so on and so forth.
Whereas Plex "just works."
I already paid when it was cheap. I'll stay and get my full dollars worth and then some. I paid for it, I'll use it. When it is unusable I'll bail. Anything else is stupid.
I paid for it, I'll use it. When it is unusable I'll bail. Anything else is stupid.
What you are saying is called sunk cost fallacy. A notoriously common stupid way of thinking.
The logical way to think of this is: You already paid for Plex so both are free for you. Since both are free, just pick the better one.
No, it’s not the sunk cost fallacy lol
Not sure if you're trolling or you just had a brain-fart 🤔 Happens sometimes. Maybe think about it a little more.
notoriously common stupid way of thinking
Why are you being rude to somebody you're trying to convince to put in extra effort to switch services?
I wouldn't call it "stupid way of thinking". That sounds almost offensive, while it's just a common fallacy that affects most humans.
Have lifetime already. No reason to jump. Generally it just works.
No need to have another project while Plex still works fine.
As said in literally every thread here that ever mentions anything about Plex or jellyfin, biggest is remote library sharing.
No, I will not walk my in-laws through setting up a vpn gateway so their TV will connect to me
No, despite my extensive homelab setup, I am not going to set up a reverse proxy and go through the SSL/TLS cert bullshit and expose especially considering the security limitations the devs say likely will not be fixed
There's others, but those are the main ones for a bunch of us
With tailscale you either have to 1) download an app and click a button on every device you want to watch Jellyfin or 2) click a few buttons once, and then access your Jellyfin on the open internet forever with HTTPS
Plex is the most plug-in-play, I understand not wanting to go through setting it up, but you're not accurately portraying how difficult it actually is to access. It is not difficult to access, but you have to set everything up yourself.
Most devices that people watch tv and movies on in people’s houses don’t have a way to connect to Tailscale.
Yes I am
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TL;DR... Lowest common denominator stops people setting up tailscale or the like, along with sunken cost fallacy.
I paid for it ages ago on a deal, and it currently suits my needs. It runs as a docker container and it just works. It’s easy enough for my elderly mom to use remotely and I’ve ripped my entire movie collection for her to watch. I also like the live tv that’s included with the pass.
I would switch in a heartbeat if it wasn’t doing what I need, but so far I have no complaints, it works well for my family’s needs.