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[–] 00xide@lemmy.ml 8 points 15 hours ago (2 children)

This is just acknowledging that the government wouldn't be corrupt without the billionaires. By the logic of your post, the left is correct and the right is not.

This stinks of "enlightened centrist" meme junk.

[–] calcopiritus@lemmy.world 2 points 14 hours ago

Yes, the post is meant to be pro-left.

But your first sentence in your comment is wrong. Classic correlation is not causation. With the addition of "if X is Y because Z, if Z wouldn't be, then X wouldn't be Y".

[–] P1k1e@lemmy.world 6 points 14 hours ago

We really gotta stop using that girl in memes that make her seem crazy. She was the calmest most reasoned person in that video.

[–] HrabiaVulpes@europe.pub 5 points 15 hours ago (2 children)

Everyone is "I need someone who I can vote for!"

Why not run yourself? I bet there is a considerable amount of people willing to vote for a random person who has no known connections to oligarchs, pedophiles or billionaires

[–] Squirrelanna@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 14 hours ago

Because I'm not tough enough to handle the death threats I'd get for being trans.

[–] calcopiritus@lemmy.world 1 points 14 hours ago

Because I don't want to be a politician.

There are also too many stupid executives. That doesn't mean that I want to be an executive. I cannot both be a politician and an executive.

[–] stenAanden@feddit.dk 8 points 18 hours ago

When someone wants to be an edgy centrist but ends up enforcing leftism

[–] king_comrade@lemmy.world 30 points 1 day ago

Ahh the 'enlightened centrist' take, how very boring.

[–] khanh@lemmy.zip 25 points 1 day ago

therefore, corrupt billionaires are the problem

[–] WraithGear@lemmy.world 56 points 1 day ago (1 children)

so…. then it’s the billionaires. got it.

[–] Doomsider@lemmy.world 28 points 1 day ago (3 children)

For real. Both sides guy is an idiot.

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[–] oascany@lemmy.world 26 points 1 day ago

This has to be one of the most boomer out-of-touch I'm-a-cool-smart-guy memes I've seen on here, and that's saying something.

[–] Blackmist@feddit.uk 1 points 14 hours ago

When does the right think corrupt government is the problem?

They're too busy blaming everything on whatever that corrupt government tells them to.

[–] starman2112@sh.itjust.works 35 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Fun fact! The picture of the girl in this meme comes from this video, (relevant portion about 3 minutes in) in which she's by far the calmest and most reasonable person involved. She's not even angry, she just has kind of an expressive face, and she looks like that for all of exactly one frame

Some psycho combed through this video frame by frame to find the least flattering picture of her possible. Rightoids need to die out man

[–] Gorilladrums@lemmy.world 8 points 1 day ago

I actually didn't know this. She really does seem like a sweet and friendly person. It's a shame she's being used as a symbol for crazy by the right, when she's actually the opposite.

[–] EtAl@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 1 day ago

I was just thinking, "what is that woman's story?" Glad to hear it isn't something like she was turned into a meme and whatever little mental health she had shattered, and now she spends all her time shut in her parent's basement. Thankfully, the real story isn't as dark as my imagination.

Read that again. Slowly.

[–] Microtonal_Banana@lemmy.zip 16 points 1 day ago (1 children)

The right elected the most corrupt government we have had so far.

[–] GladiusB@lemmy.world 4 points 1 day ago
[–] BennyTheExplorer@lemmy.world 10 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

Um no, that is not what the "left" thinks.

There are a lot of radically different "left wing" ideologies. The quote, you claim to be left wing could probably be attributed to social democrats, maybe socialists, although not really. And that quote doesn't really represent a good summary of what they believe.

I, for example am pretty far to the left, I am an anarchist. I believe, that all forms of unjust hierarchy are a bad thing, be it a companie's CEO or a government and I advocate for flat hierarchies and the organization of society via specialized assemblies. And of course the ownership of workers of the means of production.

So, I guess I would agree with your quote, as I am against exploitation from the government and from billionaires. I just think, that corruption is the wrong way to look at it. The way, capitalism is going right now is not corruption in the sense that is an "error" in the system. Nor is it the fault of individuals or a group of people. It's just that capitalism is set up in a way, that it naturally produces and needs these crisees, like faciasm to once again violently reinforce itself and live on. Capitalism will inevitaly lead to concentration of wealth, because of the power imbalance between worker and employer. And this leads to imbalances in power, which you could call corruption.

So, in summary, your statement could be considered leftist, as that is pretty close to what leftists believe. It's just that a lot of leftists go a bit further and analyze the issue on a systemic level rather than an individual one.

Also, the right is not authentically against governmental corruption, look at them cheering on ice raids or the war in Iran. Wanting to spend more money in state violence is the most "pro-government" thing, I could think of.

[–] Gorilladrums@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago (2 children)

I believe, that all forms of unjust hierarchy are a bad thing

What exactly do you think is a just hierarchy? Where is the line?

[–] jtrek@startrek.website 2 points 1 day ago

A DM running a traditional game of D&D?

[–] BennyTheExplorer@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

There is none. That's why I am an anarchist. I guess, I worded that in a bad way.

Edit: Maybe, the one exception, I can think of is parents and their children, because children are not fully developed and are missing some important abilities to fully participate in society. Still, of course I believe in letting your child participate and encouraging them to exercise and their autonomy, but there are limits.

[–] ILikeBoobies@lemmy.ca 15 points 1 day ago (7 children)

So that would put you on the left.

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[–] PeriodicallyPedantic@lemmy.ca 12 points 1 day ago

Billionaires aren't corrupt, they're ethically bankrupt; they're the corrupt_ors_.
Government officials are corrupt because they've been corrupted by the billionaire corruptors.

Getting rid of the billionaires solves both problems at once.

It's always funny to me when people say to put the billionaires in charge, it's always just like

The farmer is doing a bad job because they just let the fox into the henhouse, so instead we should put the fox in charge of the henhouse. The fox is best suited for the job because they have a lot of experience with hens and they know all the problems with the henhouses.

[–] ExtremeDullard@piefed.social 228 points 2 days ago (16 children)

This is in fact incorrect: the right doesn't say corrupt government is the problem The right says trans kids and brown people are the problem. Because the right is dumb as a fucking brick, and the billionaires managed to brainwash the dumb right into hating someone other than themselves.

They actually say it all the time. Trumps people have been called out in interviews for saying it while occupying their positions.

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[–] rumba@lemmy.zip 4 points 1 day ago

Corrupt billionaires controlling the government in a fight to hoover up every last penny of the entire population of the earth are a substantial problem.

The majority of the right doesn't actually care about corruption as long as they see it benefiting them, or hurting the 'other team'. It doesn't actually need to benefit them it can even hurt them substantially, as long as it hurts the other side more and they are told they could have an advantage due to it.

In the end, the left politicians are as into the corruption as the right, they're just better at lip service and nothing is going to change.

[–] Sam_Bass@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago

good luck finding any

[–] bequirtle@lemmy.world 47 points 2 days ago

The left also thinks corrupt government is a problem

Meanwhile the right proudly advertises their love for corrupt billionaires

[–] borQue@lemmy.zip 6 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I just read that the English government is considering a Law that forbids politicians to lie. I actually thought that was the whole starting point of politics but somewhere down the road clearly they must have noticed that no-one cared, so they finally made sure we'd care.

A lil disappointing on the progression charts of evolution, but hey! We now can move on.

[–] BarneyPiccolo@lemmy.today 4 points 1 day ago

We have truth-in-advertising laws, and political campaigns are nothing more than marketing/ promotional/ advertising campaigns, so those laws should apply. If someone is making claims that are demonstrably false, their campaign should be ended, and their entire campaign fund confiscated, and they should be prohibited from ever holding office again.

They'll learn real fast.

[–] TootSweet@lemmy.world 84 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (5 children)
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[–] Signtist@bookwyr.me 58 points 2 days ago (2 children)

I know this is a shitpost, but I've seen people legitimately give this argument like it's a gotcha. It's like, okay? So if we get rid of the corrupt billionaires running the corrupt government, then the other corrupt billionaires will use their vast wealth to seize power for the billionaires again, so the problem is indeed the corrupt billionaires - we need to get rid of them all. It's like taking antibiotics - you can't stop when you start feeling better, you can only stop when you've gotten rid of the whole infection, or it'll just come back stronger.

[–] plyth@feddit.org 1 points 23 hours ago

Turn it around. Who are the good billionaires? Get their help, their resources, and make politics sane again.

How can we figure out who they are?

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[–] Leviathan@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago

This leftist doesn't want capitalism or government.

[–] echodot@feddit.uk 4 points 1 day ago (2 children)

I think that must be the most cold take anyone has ever had in the entire history of thinking. There were mollusks who already understood this. This isn't news to anyone.

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