I am so sick of the word conservative. It's not conservative, it's fucking regressive. It's back sliding our society into a world that never really existed in the first place.
this post was submitted on 22 May 2025
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It’s not conservative, it’s fucking regressive.
I mean, Liberals aren't particularly liberal and far too many of the Progressives are barely progressive. Libertarians don't seem that interested in liberty. Centrists can't find the center. Plutocrats are immolating their capital. The Meritocrats are unqualified. The Technocrats are incompetent. Only the Fascists seem intent on delivering results consistent with their brand.
I don't disagree. The world liberal is wasted on the Democratic party. They're not liberal. They're just the only valid opposition to the Nazis. Even if their policies are conservative.
They’re just the only valid opposition to the Nazis.
I think you're asking "opposition" to do more heavy lifting than it can bear in that sentence.
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I say this all the time and somehow people just can't see it. Who cares what they call themselves. Its what they do and what they want that describes them.
Lemmy is pretty damn close to that there's only like five conservatives but they are all the same person.
And we still don't ever get along, hahahaha
Nobody hates those who oppose conservatism like other people who oppose conservatism. 🙄
It's more than that, progressive spaces are bound to have conflict due to the fact that progressiveness is way more abstract than conservativism. Conservativism is about not having change, about things staying as they are, no progress. Progresivism however, you can be moderately progressive, very progressive, radically progressive... You also can be progressive in some aspects but not so much in others, yet you identify as a progressive.
Conservativism champions homogeneity, progressiveness champions diversity. In a diverse environment there are bound to be disagreements.
It is what it is, we just need to be better and reach agreements. All the time.
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Yeah, if it wasn't for the news in lemmy, I'd assume the world was all sunshine and roses, and everybody was cool like me.
We're all happy depressed furries optimizing our linux experience on our thinkpads.
Yah but there's also like, 300,000 tankies and they're ALSO that same person.
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I just look fondly back on the times when there was a slightly higher barrier-to-entry to those that wanted to access and use the internet.
This makes me wonder how many "teenage edgelords" that bought into "the manosphere" would've been able to go to such an extreme if they'd been forced to access every website through a shared family computer, in a room that others frequent, the way many Millennials had to do at their age.
Relatively-guaranteed privacy only happened on rare occasions (I came from a large household), and I had to share the one computer with all of my siblings. My parents weren't the type to go out of their way to monitor my internet activity, but just knowing they or my siblings could appear at any time, look over my shoulder, and ask me what I was looking at, made me think very carefully about what I put on that screen.
We wouldn't have been able to entrench ourselves 24/7 in toxic muck the way people can today.
I hadn't thought about it until reading your comment here but I accidentally raised my GenZ kids this way. If I hadn't done this I never would have seen my eldest heading down the misogynist edgelord path and intervened.
The only decent computer in the house was in the living room, and they had clunky retired elementary school computers in their rooms running Linux and Open Office so they could work on homework (no internet, USB drive to save homework and send from family computer). It wasn't because I sought to keep them from using the internet privately, it was because we couldn't really afford better.
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... can... can we go there?
It's funny cuz people actually think this way, and don't realize what a self-own it is.
Love how even in this future people still park on the fuckin sidewalks.
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Someone added that to the PragerU post? Because I can't imagine PragerU posting a Utopian image with that text. PragerU are worse than Fox "Newz".
PragerU posted the text, someone added the image.
I'm fine with conservative media in theory, but the problem with conservative media these days is just the constant blatant lying.
I think there's definitely room for conservative voices, like:
- Conserving the environment.
- Putting checks and balances on AI and technology in general
- Maintaining non-harmful cultural traditions (Morris Dancing is cringe, but it should still be around)
- Promoting an emphasis on local community and family rather than individualism fuelling the capitalist system
Even traditions that have been harmful can be recontextualised and maintained and used as a means of teaching, rather than thrown out entirely in the name of progress. People are so drawn to places like Japan (at least partially) because they maintain their traditions and seek to conserve what they have rather than constantly push forward and bulldoze everything old because it's old. Obviously not everyone believes in the traditions, but they keep them anyway.
Nowadays though? Conservatives have basically tossed all of that in favor of allowing capital to completely bulldoze over traditions and then blaming the ensuing misery on the gays.
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How could you ban political speech without some kind of Act under the guise of keeping Kids Safe Online?
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Imagine a world where news was balanced and progressives had equal media representation.
Have we tried putting them on a boat and sending on to find the next continent? If we did that, I might start celebrating Columbus day!
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looks like cool discussion downwind but why should we even argue about what is "conservative"
you're interested in conserving resources? you got some canned food in your cubbard? you tried to teach your kid whatever bullshit you thought was important from your folks? BOOM you're a Filthy Conservative.
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