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cross-posted from: https://lemmy.ml/post/48806122

A license verification certificate expires and when it expires, Microsoft Office for Mac assumes it's unlicensed even if it has been fully paid for.

So, any idiot who paid for Office 2019 for Mac "perpetual" will lose access to it next month.

The same will happen with Office 2021 and Office 2024 in the future.

Pirates are unaffected, only who paid for the product gets punished

Good job πŸ‘πŸ»

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[–] neon_nova@lemmy.dbzer0.com 12 points 6 hours ago

This is pretty wild to see. Based on Wikipedia https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_Microsoft_Office

Some people could have purchased this as late as early October 2021.

If companies are going to literally steal things from the user, then why would I buy anything from them in the future?

This is a clear sign to everyone to not buy anything from Microsoft moving forward, because they clearly think they can just take it back at any time.

[–] nullspace@lemmy.world 5 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

What lawyerspeak TOS bullshit are they going to cite as a way to avoid refunds and lawsuits?

[–] Railcar8095@lemmy.world 2 points 4 hours ago

That's EOL and they won't do any additional support. Renew certificates is 1 hours of intern effort and 20 bucks, so fuck you.

*effort and cost made up, but l considering they made billions with office, it's basically equivalent.

[–] Blindsite@lemmy.today 9 points 6 hours ago (2 children)

Yet another reason to stick with LibreOffice and other FOSS open source software.

[–] Dozzi92@lemmy.world 3 points 6 hours ago

ATM machine.

[–] Wataba@sh.itjust.works 2 points 6 hours ago

Yet another reason to look for alternatives to Libre.

[–] tackleberry@thelemmy.club 2 points 6 hours ago

LIBREOFFICE is the answer!

[–] unnamedau@lemmy.ca 1 points 6 hours ago

god i love when my decisions pan out the way i want them to

[–] GreenKnight23@lemmy.world 21 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I was about to purchase some legitimate licenses for MS products when this was first announced.

saved myself the money and trouble and just pirated it.

fuck em

[–] hanrahan@slrpnk.net 7 points 23 hours ago (1 children)

mehh I've been using Libre office for many years, fuck 'em.

[–] tackleberry@thelemmy.club 1 points 6 hours ago

LibreOffice is so good I donate to the community that keeps these projects alive!

[–] Passerby6497@lemmy.world 100 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Rossman posted a video a while ago about how Microsoft updated their site without noting they updated it to gaslight their customers into thinking it's always said that.

There's a reason these companies are trying to kill the archive sites, it lets people call them on their bullshit.

Edit: YouTube source

[–] magnue@lemmy.world 48 points 1 day ago (5 children)
[–] Peanutbjelly@sopuli.xyz 3 points 4 hours ago

I hate how people getting scammed by near monopolistic monoliths casually being fraudulent in their advertisements is them being "idiots" rather than just victims who haven't spent their whole life navigating the myriad ways billionaires are researching to more elegantly fuck us. Why consumer protection is supposed to be a thing, why anti-trust is supposed to be a thing, and people are trapped between fascists and a "tactical vote" alternative that has done very little to stop the fascists from casually dismantling these protections.

Good job media for always individualizing the problem and blaming the victims.

[–] poopkins@lemmy.world 14 points 1 day ago (1 children)

It's an appeal directly to the thriving community of intellectual property pirates here on Lemmy in order to make the post directly to the front page.

[–] buddascrayon@lemmy.world 7 points 1 day ago

Notice that neither of you have refuted the veracity of the headline claim.

[–] PumaStoleMyBluff@lemmy.world 16 points 1 day ago (1 children)

It can sometimes be annoying when news communities require posts to use an article's original headline, but it definitely makes sense at times.

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[–] victorz@lemmy.world 184 points 2 days ago (28 children)

Idiots?

I'm not one of them, but what makes them idiots? Seems kind of uncalled for.

[–] ViscloReader@lemmy.world 1 points 3 hours ago

I think it's just sarcastic

[–] FartMaster69@lemmy.dbzer0.com 171 points 2 days ago (3 children)

It just wouldn’t be a lemmy post without a smug sense of superiority.

[–] liuther9@lemmy.world -1 points 12 hours ago

Seems like you feel superior to them

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[–] Zephorah@discuss.online 109 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Not sure why they’re idiots, trying to go the non-sub option is smart, doesn’t vote for subs. Microsoft is the asshole here.

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[–] FlashMobOfOne@lemmy.world 35 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (9 children)

I'm not sure I'm cool with calling people 'idiots' in this scenario. We don't blame the victims of con men when they're stolen from, and this is the same thing, just on a bigger scale.

That said, here is the obligatory linking to LibreOffice: https://www.libreoffice.org/

It's free and a better choice.

And for anyone who says in excel I can create a spreadsheet sheet that does this amazing company defining process, I'll counter that with you can make a calculator in Minecraft. Just because you can doesn't mean you should.

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[–] jordanlund@lemmy.world 57 points 2 days ago (10 children)
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[–] Th4tGuyII@fedia.io 64 points 2 days ago

I'd argue trying to avoid yet another subscription by paying upfront was an honest and good faith strategy. The problem was assuming Microsoft also acts in good faith, and wouldn't just take the money and run like they have just 7 years in.

Honestly for things like this, I would struggle to be convinced that these folks aren't entirely within their right to take back what they already bought in good faith by pirating it.

After all, perpetual means you bought a license to use that program for life, regardless of whether Microsoft wants to uphold that or not.

[–] Dvixen@lemmy.world 24 points 1 day ago (7 children)

Not surprised in the least. It's all about maintaining incoming cash flow.

They cancelled my Win11 (from purchased Win10 eligible upgrade) key earlier this year when I replaced a failed motherboard.

Happy to be free of their ecosystem. Should have jumped free long ago.

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[–] Epzillon@lemmy.world 48 points 2 days ago (11 children)

Victim-blaming is the real stupidity here. Microsoft harasses its customers (again) and now the customers are the idiots?

This is the same type of propaganda Nvidia is trying to push. Jensen Huang saying "people should have planned better, the rising prices of hardware was imminent" is the exact same tactic of being the cause of the problem and still putting the blame of everyone else.

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[–] fodor@lemmy.zip 4 points 1 day ago (1 children)

If people are buying such software on their own dime, they're getting played. Happens once, OK you didn't know it was a con job. Happens twice, you're a fool...

But if it's on your company's dime, meh, not your problem.

[–] CultLeader4Hire@lemmy.world 20 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (2 children)

Absolutely fair points but I think it should be illegal to sell a β€œperpetual” license - perpetual means everlasting - and then it turns out to not be perpetual

They should be forced to honor the perpetual contracts

[–] hanrahan@slrpnk.net 1 points 23 hours ago

perpetually in this insatnce means, for as long as they say

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[–] ParlimentOfDoom@piefed.zip 23 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Victim blaming is definitely how you win people to your side... Dumbass

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[–] Zorcron@lemmy.zip 16 points 1 day ago (2 children)

OOP’s comment on the original post that the cross-poster should have shared:

Disclaimer: I wrote "idiot" to describe someone who paid for the product not because they're actually idiots, but it's because Microsoft is treating them like that: their official solution on the website is "simply subscribe to the latest and greatest or buy a new "perpetual" license to office 2024 to continue using what you paid for"

[–] blitzen@lemmy.ca 1 points 4 hours ago

That explanation makes it worse.

That’s not how words work

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