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"The greatest trick the devil ever pulled was convincing the world he didn't exist"

[–] NaibofTabr@infosec.pub 168 points 3 days ago (4 children)

I think it's important to understand, these people believe that they already control the world. From their perspective, they aren't "trying", they're doing. And they believe they have the right to do so. They believe that having wealth makes them more important and more capable than everyone else, even though the reality is often that having wealth separates them from having to actually do anything for themselves, making them less capable and less experienced than everyone else.

The rest of us, our needs, our concerns, our desires, our lives... none of that matters to them, except when it either enables or impedes getting what they want.

The only thing preventing the entire world from being stuck in complete, abject despotism is that these people are often at each other's throats. When they collude, everything they touch turns to garbage.

[–] agamemnonymous@sh.itjust.works 29 points 3 days ago

The only thing preventing the entire world from being stuck in complete, abject despotism is that these people are often at each other's throats. When they collude, everything they touch turns to garbage.

That's the hope. I'm sure there are a handful of billionaires who are decent enough people, tech co-founders who didn't get all weird about the tech money. But the other 98% are legit sociopaths. They can't co-exist for long, they're all secretly undercutting each other. It's in their nature.

One possible future is letting the dragons fight it out, and picking off the stragglers. Fingers crossed 🤞

[–] p03locke@lemmy.dbzer0.com 13 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Imagine fighting a long war where one side knows they are fighting the war, and a vast majority of the other side thinks they are trying to help them.

There's no war other than class war. We've been fighting it for centuries. Remember that.

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[–] jimmy90@lemmy.world 11 points 3 days ago (1 children)

i think the oligarchs do defacto control a significant chunk of the world and they are trying to exercise that control to enact their deranged ai-hallucination-like version of reality that their confirmation broken brains think should be done

thankfully they do not share these visions with eachother commonly and nation states are slowly making laws to prevent them abusing the global financial system

[–] Jason2357@lemmy.ca 8 points 2 days ago

Being insulated from reality and surrounded by sycophants causes literal brain damage.

[–] VinesNFluff@pawb.social 36 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Conspiracy theories are controlled opposition.

Tell people to be mad at a made up shadow cabinet of rich lizard people who run the world in secret so they won't be mad at the actual, real, existing cabinet of rich human people who run the world out in the open.

[–] Digit@lemmy.wtf 7 points 1 day ago

Yup. It's just people. And we can still mend this.

Don't fall for the "it's an all powerful force beyond your reach" misdirection.

The emperor wears no clothes. We see the man behind the curtain.

[PS, "conspiracy theories"'s a term the crooks have used to dissuade scrutiny of them.]

I thought only the queen of England, John English, and PDQ Bach's estate had that kind of wealth. I wish I was right

[–] droniecarp@lemmy.zip 5 points 1 day ago

It's not a cabal, it's all narcissists with money competing against each other. They all know what's best for them and are the main characters in their feeble minds.

[–] Herr_S_aus_H@lemmy.zip 90 points 3 days ago (28 children)

This is the reason why I always get way to mad at conspiracy theorists. You don't have to make up some shadowy cabal or the jews, be mad at the wealthy oligarchs.

[–] Susaga@sh.itjust.works 48 points 3 days ago (4 children)

One theory I heard: Crazy conspiracy theories were created by the government to make legitimate conspiracy theories look ridiculous by association. "Oh, you think there's an island of pedophile billionaires running the world? I bet you also think the moon landing was fake." A classic "the butts match" gambit.

[–] Herr_S_aus_H@lemmy.zip 8 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (1 children)

I don't think it is planed like the conspiracy theories are created but ampliefed to distroy the public trust and muddy the waters, I don't think that is too far fetched.

[–] Digit@lemmy.wtf 2 points 1 day ago

They stage things.

Seems implausible that they merely wait, then amplify.

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[–] terranoid@lemmy.cafe 16 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (1 children)

Shadow cabal and oligarchy aren't mutually exclusive. Seems to me the oligarchs are just the more obvious nodes of the shadow cabal web, the fuckers with the money and power that can go on TV and talk directly to senators.

Go one step back away from the limelight and you get dudes like Cheney, Bannon, people who interact with all the obvious oligarchs but don't need to post on social media and don't need to stay relevant to constituents. And then people like Epstein, agents in the field gathering blackmail.

Shit is pretty fucking crazy tbh.

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[–] Jason2357@lemmy.ca 10 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Thats level one feury. Level 2 is when they tell you a well known asshole billionaire is going to fight the shadow cabal for us.

[–] Digit@lemmy.wtf 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

s/billionaire/trillionaire/

Yay. A strongman hero to save us.

:|

Like we've not had that ploy before.

[–] Jason2357@lemmy.ca 1 points 1 day ago

Messiah inflation?

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[–] hansolo@lemmy.today 36 points 2 days ago (4 children)

More accurate to say "several overlapping cabals trying to expand their own fifedoms"

"Fife"doms aside, it should be thiefdoms

[–] samus12345@sh.itjust.works 8 points 2 days ago (2 children)
[–] hansolo@lemmy.today 3 points 1 day ago

I spell bad a lot, but I'm keeping my typo as-is so this makes sense in the future, as it made me laugh.

[–] psycotica0@lemmy.ca 4 points 2 days ago

No no, those are fife drums

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[–] cypherpunks@lemmy.ml 31 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

The retreat is scheduled for August 12–16 at a venue near Dublin, Ireland.

The original version of the source article identified the location as the Powerscourt Hotel; in an act of journalistic cowardice (to be expected from a Condé Nast Publication) Wired later edited their article to remove that detail "to address a security concern raised by a Dialog representative".

Esquire is unsurprisingly sticking with Wired's "near Dublin" description of the location, but fortunately it looks like some Irish media outlets (eg this and this) are reporting where it actually is so hopefully there will be some local opposition present.

[–] W3dd1e@lemmy.zip 24 points 2 days ago (1 children)
[–] Escape13@slrpnk.net 14 points 2 days ago

And compost them too!

[–] Digit@lemmy.wtf 3 points 1 day ago

"They know what's good for them" -- George Carlin

[–] MutantTailThing@lemmy.world 50 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Why yes they’re called ‘billionaires’ and there’s like 3.5 thousand of them.

[–] Eheran@lemmy.world 14 points 3 days ago (2 children)

Sorry for this odd question, but why "3.5 thousand" instead of 3500 or 3.5k?

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[–] phoenixz@lemmy.ca 17 points 2 days ago

Other talks include “Build-a-Cult,” moderated by the founder of the Christian networking site Pray.com

I mean, we all know what these people are about but I'm just taken back by the brazenness and openness of all of it.

This is basically "Yes, I made a cult to become a billionaire with a following, what about you?" and somehow nobody bats an eye? That is, of course, nobody that could do something about this.

[–] dan1101@lemmy.world 19 points 2 days ago (3 children)

I almost wonder if Rogan is a useful idiot, if someone running his show is the elite crazy or at least wannabe elite.

[–] prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 17 points 2 days ago

No need to wonder, it's been obvious for years now.

Being a useful idiot doesn't require the person being aware of their idiotic usefulness. Usually they aren't.

[–] lobut@lemmy.ca 11 points 2 days ago

I think Rogan believes he's in charge though. He talks like he's making his own decisions.

Undoubtedly he's being manipulated but yeah at the very least he's a useful idiot.

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[–] Fedizen@lemmy.world 25 points 3 days ago (3 children)

How many of them have been on Rogan?'

[–] LittleBorat3@lemmy.world 8 points 2 days ago

Who hasn't? Simpler that way. Someone showed up with money at Joe's, 2012 if I had to bet.

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[–] Formfiller@lemmy.world 14 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

“As you are probably aware I represent the Rothschild’s” -Jeffery Epstein in email to Peter Thiel

[–] Shameless@lemmy.world 29 points 3 days ago (3 children)

Whilst this was always obvious and is not at all surprising, it's definitely worth reviewing the list which someone took the time to compile: https://github.com/nzaki-dev/dialog

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[–] luthis@lemmy.nz 25 points 3 days ago (1 children)

What's next? 'Actually, the sky is blue'

[–] sundray@lemmus.org 14 points 3 days ago

🤷 New people get born every day. Gotta restate the obvious from time to time, make sure everyone is caught up.

[–] quick_snail@feddit.nl 4 points 2 days ago (1 children)

No, there's not.

There's many of them, and they are all rich and trying to stab each other's backs to get more power and money.

[–] Jason2357@lemmy.ca 4 points 1 day ago (1 children)

And history shows that EVERY time they felt their wealth and power were genuinely threatened, they conceded both. You don't even need a bloody revolution, they just need to see that it is a possibility before their thin skin starts crawling.

The british monarchy saw the french revolution and invented the parliamentary system. The robber barron's saw the communist revolutions in the east and suddenly the new deal, suffrage, and civil rights. Today, the billionaires are outclassed and out numbered worse than either of those examples, and will crumple like a paper tiger the second their facade is broken. All they have is their propaganda networks to protect them.

And history shows that EVERY time they felt their wealth and power were genuinely threatened

Watching Musk get behind a mic and start bellyaching about declining fertility rates is rather revealing

[–] Bo7a@piefed.ca 7 points 2 days ago

This shit never changes.

And this is good old Boston, The home of the bean and the cod, Where the Lowells talk only to the Cabots, And the Cabots talk only to God

  • John Bossidy, 1910.
[–] Bloomcole@lemmy.world 15 points 3 days ago

There Really ARE Cabals of Elite Crazies Trying to Control the World
It's more than this one.

[–] Binturong@lemmy.ca 6 points 2 days ago

yes... trying...

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