this post was submitted on 23 Mar 2025
1 points (100.0% liked)

NZ Politics

643 readers
3 users here now

Kia ora and welcome to the NZ Politics community!

This is a place for respectful discussions about everything that's political and kiwi

This is an inclusive space where diverse opinions are valued, but please don't be a dick

Other kiwi communities here

 

Banner image by Tom Ackroyd, CC-BY-SA

founded 2 years ago
MODERATORS
 

Winston and Seymour are in competition to see which one can be the Trump of NZ.

top 22 comments
sorted by: hot top controversial new old
[–] watson387@sopuli.xyz 3 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Holy fuck these people are cancer.

[–] BedSharkPal@lemmy.ca 2 points 1 month ago (2 children)

The government needs to figure out how to crack down on this algo driven bot rot ASAP otherwise democracies are all going to fall.

[–] Аноним@lemmy.nz 1 points 1 month ago

The issue is that this government is kissing the arse of the US, you are correct we have seen the rise of authoritarian regimes across the globe in the last 10 years. We don't need nor want NZ to fall. I have seen the slow decay of rights under this government with their fast track of bills very similar to executive orders trump is using

[–] InvertedParallax@lemm.ee 1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

We need to cut Russia off the internet completely is what we need to do.

[–] BedSharkPal@lemmy.ca 1 points 1 month ago

The argument has always been that then the people in that country will never know the truth and rise up against their dictator. I'm not sure how much water that argument holds today given their current war...

[–] don@lemm.ee 2 points 1 month ago (1 children)

tf NZ, are you not learning anything from the fascist states? Get your shit together!

[–] Dave@lemmy.nz 1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

For context, this guy leads a party that is part of a coalition in government at the moment. However, they only got 6% of the vote. He/they (the guy/the party but I find it amusing given the context that I could have been referring to his pronouns) is certainly not representative of the country as a whole.

More concerning is that the other parties in the coalition are also trying their best to mimic Trump.

[–] CurlyWurlies4All@slrpnk.net 1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

When all your policies fail the only thing left to engage your voters is the culture war.

[–] Splenetic@lemm.ee 2 points 1 month ago

Peters has made a career out of courting the dumbest 5-10% of kiwis for at least the last 30 years. "Woke" is just his latest ill-defined hobby-horse to get his name in the paper.

He calls to end "DEI" while his party says they support Diversity & Inclusion. He believes in nothing.

[–] homesweethomeMrL@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Christ I knew they had their hooks into you NZ but I didn't think it was that bad already.

woof. Y'all need to take out the trash pronto.

And that means no Xitter, no facebook, no Instacrap. Anyone using those things is abetting the destruction of all that is good.

Mastodon, Lemmy, Pixelfed are wonderful things. Enjoy those.

Yes, fine, also bluesky I guess. I dunno.

[–] TagMeInSkipIGotThis@lemmy.nz 1 points 1 month ago (2 children)

There's some fairly large amount of NZers that interact on the daily (some on the hourly) with Facebook. I dip in from time to time to read what people are saying just to try to keep some perspective on why it seems so many of my fellow citizens have such strange ideas.

For the most part replies and discussion on just about any topic are full of false assumptions, minimal facts, naked and unquestioned bias (x is always bad no matter what, y always good etc) and then the usual racism, misogyny and nastiness. This sort of crap from Winston appeals to that sort of folk, really he's just targetting a little lower and more broadly than his usual tactic of talking to the 70+ old white racists.

[–] BalpeenHammer@lemmy.nz 1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I think you are taking some copium if you think this kind of rhetoric only appeals to 70+ old white racists.

There are hundreds of thousands of younger racists who also love this message.

[–] TagMeInSkipIGotThis@lemmy.nz 1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

That's what im saying; the old plain white racists are dying off, so he's pivoting to outrage amongst young males instead.

[–] BalpeenHammer@lemmy.nz 1 points 1 month ago

That's a rich field to mine in NZ.

[–] homesweethomeMrL@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

There's some fairly large amount of NZers that interact on the daily (some on the hourly) with Facebook.

I have no doubt. This will mean the utter victory of the right wing fascists, backed by broligarch billionaire Peter Thiel, et. al.

It’s that simple. It’s been tried-and-true since at least 2016. Kill it with fire.

[–] barneypiccolo@lemm.ee 1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Another beautiful country about to be ruined by NAZIs.

[–] InvertedParallax@lemm.ee 1 points 1 month ago

Russian funded and supported nazis.

[–] gravitas_deficiency@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Aw man what the fuck really? Come on guys. I was thinking of bailing out to Middle Earth, and now this??? Gotta take it off the list now :(

[–] absGeekNZ@lemmy.nz 0 points 1 month ago (1 children)

These guys are so unpopular, it is looking likely that we will have the first one term government for a very long time.

They have fucked up the economy really badly, they are trying to accelerate privatization of state assets (roading, education etc...) which is deeply unpopular, most kiwis think the selling of the power companies, banks and insurance companies in the past were mistakes.

[–] TagMeInSkipIGotThis@lemmy.nz 1 points 1 month ago

That's the only thing that'll potentially save us - just how bad they are at running the economy. But you have to keep an eye on polling which still shows the majority of our voters trust National on the economy more than Labour.

Plus Act & National have a huge amount of money from the real estate & landlord grifters who are going to dump it in yet again to fight against CGT which Labour will have to go with some form of to keep their own voters on side.

[–] jaggedrobotpubes@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

New Zealand better shut that shit down fast and ruthlessly.

I mean, they don't have to, but boy will they be happy if they do.

[–] Fizz@lemmy.nz 1 points 1 month ago

We don't have the political will half our pop is already infected with this cancer. People trying to shut it down will get labeled woke and have half the country try and bring them in line.