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These aren’t “the wealthy” - most of these are priced at $50k-75k. That’s prepper nutjob price ranges and it’s no surprise that they’re shooting people with front end loaders since obviously it’s the government disguised as the company workers, coming to dig them out and take their guns.
The people who are actually wealthy have the means to not live in a hole in South Dakota surrounded by other people in their own holes. Their hole in the ground will be somewhere much less advertised.
Yeah, IIRC Zuck’s bunker is in New Zealand, because it’s theoretically farthest from radiation fallout during a nuclear event.
It's in kauai, hawaii. Specifically, right here:
22.2016232, -159.3485761
https://imgs.xkcd.com/comics/coordinate_precision.png
At least we now know where waldo is in zucks bunker
These aren't the control vaults. They are the experiment vaults.
If this is really the best of humanity that will weather the storm, we could be doomed after all.
Why do people keep saying or assuming that these are the best of humanity? These literally are the leeches of humanity, the narcissistic antisocial hoarders who think they're the cream of the crop and obviously the only ones deserving of survival of the disaster they helped create.
Fuck these people, I hope they all die in a fire or something, humanity will be off better
It is one of the worst parts of US culture and one of the greatest accomplishments of capitalists' propaganda that we generally see the rich as noble and admirable while the poor are evil and disgusting.
Not to be all US-centric about it, but that's where I live and I think this place's reputation speaks for itself.
During one particularly hairy incident, a man who moved into one of the units with his wife, his daughter, and her four children, pulled a gun on a Vivos contractor who had pulled up with a front-end loader to his bunker.
The resident eventually shot the contractor, injuring him. However, South Dakota’s stand-your-ground law led to a grand jury declining to indict him.
It's telling that one of these billionaires was the type to kill a worker trying to do their job near his property. And "stand your ground" laws were created by and for gun nuts who want to murder someone. Change my mind...
Like the other commenter noted, these aren't rich people, they are prepper types. A billionaire isnt getting a $55k bunker.
The guy who did the shooting is apparently a former cop turned EMT.
The person he shot also wasn't a worker trying to do his job, it was a guy who worked for the company who told a mutual acquaintance that he was going to that guy's house specifically to attack him. When he got there, he asked the guy if he'd ever killed someone, and then he said he had killed someone with his bare hands. He then started going at the guy, who shot him and then immediately rendered aid.
Not to defend a guy eho is probably a nutjob and a jerk, it sounds like a reasonable act of self defense to me.
Not that I don't believe you, but do you have a link to those details? They certainly aren't in this article...
Yeah, I thought it was strange because famously a grand jury will indict anything, but there werent any details in the article, so I looked one up with more detail.
These people are such morons. It would take about 2 minutes of an intro level Anthropology class to learn that for like 95% of human history we lived in small groups like this — so we’re definitely able to do it — but they only worked because they were (mostly) egalitarian. They absolutely don’t work when group members consistently value themselves over the group.
They weren't necessarily egalitarian, but they all involved a sense of duty to the community the ability to reinvent the structure of the community, and the freedom to leave. They were also smaller than this. But yeah this is a bunch of people who don't understand how to function in a community like this.
Also I'm not certain why these people are already living in the bunkers
Can we stage a fake crisis so they all flee to their bunkers, then we all lock them inside?
Have these guys ever considered that the survivors outside the bunkers might just weld the bunker doors shut whilst those inside watch them do it on closed circuit television?
I think the bigger threat is people dropping toxic gas or bombs down the ventilation shafts.
cause ventilation shafts will be found, eventually, no matter how well they hide them.
I would bury them after the welding, then scout where the escape hatches and weld and bury them too... Then the air system...
You would have thought that the people making these shelters would have learned from Covid that they simply can’t crawl in a hole and stay safe. The wealthy are used to soft easy living and a underclass of people who do what they tell them to because of their money.
If we really had a society ending disease or event they wouldn’t last two weeks before they came out of their bunkers looking for entertainment because they were bored. You couldn’t tell most of them to stay inside or even wear a fucking mask during Covid.
On top of that they may have the skills to make money but the skills a P.E. Investor has from raiding healthy companies and pilfering assets is not the same skill set needed to lead people when money has no meaning and/or form collective groups to survive.
Without a government and its protection, the wealthy are just going to end up dead with the head of security for the bunker fucking their trophy wife.
So.... become the head of security for a billionare, got it.
A consultant reported that billionaires, when confronted with the idea that the private security team have no incentive to continue to obey the billionaire once society had collapsed, asked the consultant how they could maintain control of the security team, such as if shock collars or locking up all the food would work.
The consultant suggested they simply treat the security team really well beforehand, like just being a good friend.
The billionaires then became concerned, and I shit you not, asked "but where does that end?"
I'll try to find the link to add it here.
Edit: Here it is.
Yeah..... No billionaire knows how to exist without exploiting labour. They aren't going to be going into their bunkers without security, chefs, cleaners, or entertainers. There's so much cognitive dissonance required to simultaneously believe that the government/world is going to be destroyed, but you will safe and still have a legal right to property.
The only thing that maintains their wealth is the legal and economic system they use to exploit other people's work. Without it their property is just going to be seized by the first person who is quicker on the draw.
These fucks are GROUND ZERO for humanity's collective dysfunction. They really think concentrating their filth in a fucking bunker isn't going to brew the literal worst toxic behavior ever witnessed?
Have at it in my opinion. Lock em in and melt the keys.
Like most of their ideas the bunker strategy is idiotic because it completely fails to take into account the psychology of the individual. They used to flying around all over the planet and experiencing the best in life, for the most part they've lived this life since before they knew what their own fingers were for because they were born into wealth, these people are not going to do well in a tiny underground facility.
The people who would do the best in the bunker are the people they are in the bunker to hide away from.
Relying on a company to support you in an apocalypse event is outrageous amounts of cope
Not a television guy, but if you convinced these jackoffs the world was ending, forcing them to flee to their bunker commune, o'd watch a reality tv show of them in the bunker going lord of the flies on each other.
That's actually part of a whole chapter in World War Z. A mercenary from the rich people's resort who later ditched them reveals that once the common people started showing up to their door rather than zombies, an immediate fight broke out between all of the residents and their staff, with most of them killing each other. The mercenaries refused to intervene because they were hired to kill infected, not normal people, and had no loyalty to the rich residents.
The whole thing was broadcast live because the owner of the resort wanted to flaunt their status during the great panic.
I've thought about that. Scare them all into hiding in their bunkers, and then never tell them that there never was a threat.
They can live in their precious bunkers, while we all go on with real life. 25 years from now, one of them will poke their heads out, and say "HEY! How long as everything been okay?" And we can say, "Since the day you people went into your bunkers, now get back in there!"
Never understood these bunkers in modern times.
If TSHTF so hard that someone truly needs to bunker up for months on end civilization as we know it will likely be at an end. No coming back from it. Congrats, you survived to enjoy the death of everything we know. Heck knows they didn’t store a hoard of raw materials, tools, physical books full of knowledge, farm implements, seeds, and have ready access to individuals with year 1895 level skills to make it all work. They only thought of themselves and stored some food, lots of booze, and a little medicine, figuring they could jet off to some safe haven when it was convenient.
If it were even the 1950s I think there would still be enough of a reservoir of local material and knowledge, and everything was mostly manually skilled labor to create, so bunkering could have worked out. But not today. Global supply chains, relocated resource extraction and manufacturing, and everything computerized has virtually guaranteed the impossibility of bootstrapping modern civilization should it fail.
They’re just as dead, but they get to enjoy roving starving humans trying to kill them over whatever's left.
Isn’t this exactly the premise for some of the Vaults in Fallout? Social experiments that lead to societal issues?
a man who moved into one of the units with his wife, his daughter, and her four children, pulled a gun on a Vivos contractor who had pulled up with a front-end loader to his bunker.
Yeah that tracks.
well ofcourse they would, they tend to all think that they are the main characters and everyone else is just an NPC
Really, the most disconnected from humanity unlikable people aren’t getting along? Weird.
Ew imagine having to share a bunker with a bunch of stanky, ugly, fat pedophiles...
Crazy to think the best place to be in a major crisis is to stay put with your family and the local people you have common ground with rather than randos who just try to solve their problems with isolated wealth, huh?
(There's nuance to that, of course. If everyone in your town has to evacuate, go with them.)
Only a third of the individual properties — which can be bought for up to $55,000 plus rent and service fees — are occupied at the moment, according to the WSJ.
Yeah no, this is not a place for wealthy people. Fucking clickbait title.
And then there's the security question ... what's to stop their 'guards' from realizing that they could be living securely -without- the boss?
Look at Fallout series for more inspiration about what might happen
[off topic?]
"Children Of Strife" by Adrian Tchaikovsky.
It's the last book in a series, but can be read as a stand alone.
A group of trillionaires travel to a distant planet in hopes of terraforming it.
Things don't go as planned...