AES_Enjoyer

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[–] AES_Enjoyer@reddthat.com 1 points 2 weeks ago

"My understanding, as an American/European, of the Tiananmen events, is not at all influenced by western anticommunist and anti-chinese propaganda. Anyone who defends something different than the official US State Department version is literally 1984."

[–] AES_Enjoyer@reddthat.com 0 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (2 children)

So when does the CCP plan on apologizing for killing those student protesters with those tanks?

Thats... Not what happened in Tiananmen square protests. People protested in the square for weeks, the army didn't intervene until the protestors literally armed themselves and murdered some policemen. The clashes happened as a consequence of radical pro-liberalism students (many in organisations funded by the USA) starting to murder people.

When did the US government apologise for bombing black neighbourhoods in the MOVE bombings btw?

[–] AES_Enjoyer@reddthat.com 1 points 2 weeks ago (4 children)

Straight from the state department propaganda, with the "threat of disappearing" and the "social score". My man, you open your bank app and it will tell you how worthy of a citizen you are with your credit score, the "social credit" is just anti-china propaganda that dumbasses like you will uncritically swallow whole.

I'm not USian BTW, I'm European. Good luck in your current democracy, the one with concentration camps for immigrants, the one beating university students for protesting, and the one murdering black innocents en-masse for daring to talk to a cop.

[–] AES_Enjoyer@reddthat.com 1 points 2 weeks ago (6 children)

Chinese people are well on the way to have more rights than we do. While the EU elects far right leaders (courtesy of the oligarchic antidemocratic media conglomerate) and the US literally elects a Sieg-Heil Nazi (courtesy of the same media), China just passed serious legislation on regulating and protecting citizens from facial recognition.

Calling Chinese people slaves is extremely racist BTW

[–] AES_Enjoyer@reddthat.com 1 points 2 weeks ago

It's an insane and racist statement (the one about Ukraine). That doesn't make it genocide, though. I'm not denying that many Russian nationalists wish the disappearance of Ukraine. Then again, lemmitors wish the disappearance of russia, US and European conservatives the disappearance of the entire Arab world... Racism sucks ass, but conservatives everywhere are racist pieces of shit

[–] AES_Enjoyer@reddthat.com 2 points 2 weeks ago (8 children)

The only measure for democracy is being able to choose which of the two billionaire-approved candidates with functionally identical policy against the working class on the other hand.

whats the date when his term ends and he steps down?

Aren't people concerned with Trump doing this and quite literally just waving hands about it?

[–] AES_Enjoyer@reddthat.com 2 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

Russian statements of Ukraine not existing as a separate country, people, or identity

A statement isn't a genocide, and there isn't an Uyghur genocide. Wikipedia had to change the article title from "Uyghur genocide" to "persecution of Uyghur in China" because there's simply no evidence to support the "genocide" thesis.

To see footage of what a genocide looks like, open up YouTube or tiktok and look at today's bombings of Gaza. You simply won't find video footage of violence against Uyghur because there's not such a thing. Everyone in China has access to a smartphone and if there was remotely any violence taking place, you'd have it plastered all over western media. The "Uyghur genocide" was manufactured by a Christian radical and co-founder of the Victims of Communism Memorial Association called Adrian Zenz, and he did so in collaboration with the US state propaganda "media" Radio Free Asia. I dare you to find any post-2022 evidence from a primary source of any systematic violations of human rights against Uyghur people.

By calling everything a genocide, we diminish the actual significance of occurring genocides, such as the Gaza and Rohingya ones that you mentioned. I beg you to please get informed on the subject of Uyghur. I dont deny that there likely happened some human right violations such as forced education of thousands of Uyghur, but that happened during a very brief span of time already half a decade ago, and it stopped, and it doesn't really fit under the definition of genocide at all. Black people in the USA face TODAY much higher numbers of mass imprisonment (up to 1/4 of black males in the US above the age of 30 have been through the prison system) and I don't see anyone calling that genocide.

[–] AES_Enjoyer@reddthat.com 1 points 2 weeks ago (10 children)

I'm making legitimate criticism of my "democracy" when you bring up controlled opposition, to show you that calling my system a democracy as opposed to China is fucking ridiculous. You don't accept criticism of your system and you call it "whataboutism", when in reality we're discussing two different political systems because you're calling one of them authoritarian which is comparative to the other. You just can't answer with anything reasonable other than "Gyna bad" so you end the conversation with the thought terminating cliche of whataboutism.

[–] AES_Enjoyer@reddthat.com 1 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (12 children)

"Caring about Operation Gladio and the lack of democracy in your country means you love dictatorships". It's so obvious that you don't actually care about democracy, you're just a racist american/European supremacist who believes Chinese people are a hivemind that "are forced" to like their government

[–] AES_Enjoyer@reddthat.com 1 points 2 weeks ago (14 children)

Real democracy is like in the EU, where for the past 30 years, you get to choose the colour of the party that applies neoliberal shock therapy and dismantling of the welfare state.

I'm Spanish. In my home country, a party rose against corruption in the name of the left wing, called "Podemos". You know what happened? The state apparatus manufactured false evidence of funding from Venezuela and Iran, leaked this false information to journalists, and private media started a yearlong campaign of smearing of the party using false information, if you want to look it up, search for "caso Pablo Iglesias Sociedad Anónima". They literally bought people from the Venezuelan opposition to create a false narrative that the party was corrupted by Venezuelan money.

So: don't you fucking dare tell me to my face that European democracies are democracies and Chinese government has no opposition. In Europe we literally had the "Gladio operation" in which lost leftist leaders were LITERALLY MURDERED by intelligence agencies.

[–] AES_Enjoyer@reddthat.com 3 points 2 weeks ago (4 children)

It doesn't matter to me if you want to wipe out all the Palestinians, Jews, Ukrainians, Russians, Uighur, or Rohingya

This reads like "I won't accept racism towards black people or towards white people, because they're totally the same". You're taking completely incomparable historical events and putting them all together under the broad category of "genocide" to further your narrative. There IS an ongoing genocide of Palestinians, there ISN'T an ongoing genocide of Russians, Ukrainians or Uyghur. Denying false claims of genocide doesn't amount to advocating genocide. I'm against the genocide of Russians, Ukrainians and Uyghurs, but those things aren't happening so why even talk about that?

[–] AES_Enjoyer@reddthat.com 1 points 2 weeks ago (16 children)

Pretty sure the approval rate of Xi is an order of magnitude above that of Biden and higher than Trump's. In American "democracy", you get to choose who will enact genocide, welfare cuts, and mass imprisonment of "nonwhite" population.

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