Diva

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[–] Diva@lemmy.ml 0 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (3 children)

Actual definition of degenerate when referring to a person: an immoral or corrupt person.

It's fascinating that you accuse me of a surface analysis and yet the point isn't the surface meaning of the word, but the subtext.

When I get called a 'degenerate tankie roach' on meanwhileongrad I absolutely read dehumanization in the subtext. But maybe that's just my depraved lack of morals at work again.

[–] Diva@lemmy.ml 0 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (5 children)

If you’re referring to other people as subhuman then people are going to come to conclusions about your worldview.

You protect yourself by turning everyone you disagree with into a fascist that can’t possibly have a point.

The post here is about the goat (and associated clowns) that specialize in turning everyone they disagree with into a 'tankie' that can't possibly have a point.

[–] Diva@lemmy.ml -1 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (7 children)

I’ve used “degenerate” and heard it used many times.

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If you're referring to other people as subhuman people are going to come to conclusions about your worldview.

[–] Diva@lemmy.ml -1 points 3 months ago (15 children)

The term is deeply tied to both eugenics and fascism, Nazis would label modernist art, queer people, Jews, disabled people, and leftists as “degenerate”. There really isn't a reading that's not describing people as subhuman.

Using it assumes there’s a “pure” social body and that some people are contaminants. It's a pretty clear indication that the user is operating from a worldview fundamentally at odds with anyone that values solidarity and liberation.

“degenerates” as a pejorative is almost exclusively used in crypto-fascist and red-brown spaces.

[–] Diva@lemmy.ml -1 points 3 months ago (18 children)

for additional context, I made a thread about this exchange on hexbear, documenting the issues with the culture on MoG. Specifically the use of 'degenerate' as a pejorative being a red flag.

[–] Diva@lemmy.ml 0 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

not surprising goat is a zionist in addition to running a Nazi bar comm

edit for the fash replying to me: + I'm an anarchist

[–] Diva@lemmy.ml 0 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 children)

The issue I had was more that that guy was calling people 'degenerates', I don't like anybody calling people roaches, but calling people 'degenerates' is almost always the mark of someone being a fash. Hexbear has 'degenerates' in their slur filter, meanwhile it's constantly in use on meanwhileongrad.

edit for the fash responding to me:

[–] Diva@lemmy.ml 9 points 3 months ago

hell yeah, was it like the quickening in highlander when it happened?

[–] Diva@lemmy.ml 5 points 3 months ago (1 children)

I feel like the op meme would hit harder with this on the well guy cause they're fine to push the 'lesser evil' when it means getting their preferred evil in. when it comes to opposing communism then it's suddenly purity testing is fine

[–] Diva@lemmy.ml 4 points 3 months ago

this is pretty spot on, bonus points for including anarchists

[–] Diva@lemmy.ml 27 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 children)

the best organizers I know do happen to be doms catgirl-smug

[–] Diva@lemmy.ml 16 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (3 children)

I wear a lot of adidas and pirate stuff, plus I'm great at squatting

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