cooperativesrock

Well, part of it is that almost every time I've said "The States" when asked that question in Europe they look at me like 'no shit Sherlock I'm not an idiot' and then ask where in the States. So it may be an efficiency thing for some. I still try to lead with the States as my answer.

I did. It seemed you were saying that the Earth day 1970 protest didn't do much to help the Earth. That isn't so.

The US EPA was created in July of that year and the Clean Water Act passed in 1972. Banning DDT for Ag in the US in 1972 brought birds of prey lile the Bald Eagle back from near extenction. They were supremely successful at getting legislation passed. The focus was toxic chemicals and pollutants, not climate change as that wasn't really on the radar then. So yes, the climate is in shambles right now, but it wasn't really part of their platform. They mostly got what they wanted from that march and activism then the urgency faded away.

That 3.5% number is of sustained engagement, not one and done. A single event with lots of people is the beginning of a movement. The work needs to keep going. But, the 1970s did see a lot of environmental progress.

Yep. As Bob Dylan eloquently said "don't have nothing at all except hatred"

Jews are very divided on Israel in general and heartbreakingly on whether or not it's cool to genocide. Chuck is in the genocide is cool as long as it's not against Jewish people camp, many of us stand firm on our no genocide no matter what. He's also a senator so represents all living in NY state, so short answer is no.