qyron

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[–] qyron@sopuli.xyz 1 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Right... so, when is the declaration of war coming? The formal, enabling the EU to go for the guns. If this is to end in bloodshed, let's get to it. Europeans have been away from guns for nearly 80 years. Let's see if we remember how to make some noise and things blow apart.

[–] qyron@sopuli.xyz 2 points 1 month ago

And what I read and understood was a loathing for the regime and social practices by it enacted onto the general populatio ln and not a generalized hatred towards the average individual. I also found there was an exageration to their words, although crude, but every person has their way to convey emotion.

There are better ways to confront people on their views than to start from insult.

Did my replies come out as shouting? Damn. Not what I intended.

[–] qyron@sopuli.xyz 2 points 1 month ago (3 children)

You need me to recap this exchange inception? Allow me.

I injected myself in this as you made your opinion on how another person was racist torwards chinese in general, as they saw China, the country, as in the regime, as dangerous.

You ascertained your moral high ground out of being well travelled and cultured, without ever addressing a single point of the other person's argument. Your concern was their apparent racism under your higher morality.

I opted by criticizing this position of your, by clearly stating why and how someone can loathe a country's regime without having nothing against the people living there, adding in the process why I personally find America snd China's regimes parallels, although ideologically opposite.

Again, you chose reiterating I am wrong in my views but without addressing a single point of it, except for making vague hollow observations that add nothing to the conversation, not adding counter points of information. Twice.

I've already deemed this a closed argument. I am doing it again. Be well, have a good one.

[–] qyron@sopuli.xyz 0 points 1 month ago (5 children)

You finished waving your red herrings around?

[–] qyron@sopuli.xyz 1 points 1 month ago (7 children)

I like how you instantly decided I was talking about China when writing that list. Shows your bias. But if you recognized it, good. Only means the similarities run deep enough for both countries to be mistaken by one another.

Thank you for remembering China has, technically, the longest standing continuous civilization. I'm aware. But since we are focusing our attention on recent history, let's say last 70 years, I'm going to opt out the rest as not relevant for the discussion at hand.

Shall we deny the revolution led by Mao ended in violence against his own countrymen and revolutionary allies? The decades of disastrous policies, of cultural, religious and social repression, all of those considered classical indicators of established totalitarian regimes?

Meanwhile, across the Pacific, let's also ignore and deny the ever growing shadow power and pressure on the government by the "conservative" to hold back or cull whatever small advancements on the social front made, since the 1950's, paired with the constant recitation of the fear against communism.

There was violence and repression on both ends of this argument, obviously; one enacted it through bullets, while the other enacted it through the pen. Different methods, same results. Fascinating how any ideology, when led to it's extremes degenerates into essentially the same outcome.

Now, if you will allow me, I am going to preserve my critical and accusatory position towards the political establishments of China and USA, as both being authoritarian repressive dangerous regimes.

[–] qyron@sopuli.xyz 12 points 1 month ago (9 children)

I followed the thread just to see where it landed and I was not disappointed.

And for a well travelled and knowleadgeable person, you give off a very narrow view.

So, in one corner, we have an authoritarian regime, well established, known for violently suppressing minorities and heavilly surveill the citizens, take over territories, and constantly menace and threaten others, while thriving by manipulating money flow world wide and internally using slave work to run their industries.

On the other, we have the exact same thing, but flag and language changes. And classical political quadrant.

You can loathe a regime and have nothing against the people underneath it. Chinese were lead into an authoritarian regime through force, Americans were subtly led to the same through fear. The original premise: a land of freedom, for the people.

If we can not agree both countries are, essentially, the same, then one of us is refusing to aknowledge facts, willingly.

[–] qyron@sopuli.xyz 1 points 1 month ago

That is a good number

[–] qyron@sopuli.xyz 3 points 1 month ago (2 children)

What about printing head replacement?

[–] qyron@sopuli.xyz 38 points 1 month ago (3 children)

I'm fairly sure that violates a few EU directives...

[–] qyron@sopuli.xyz 10 points 1 month ago

Relax, satan; that would be coercion. Hungary is very aware they can and have been penalized by acting like this by having funds whitheld.

We can argue it is coercion as well and I will agree but it was on the damn treaty when they signed to join the EU. Don't want it? Uphold the treaty.

[–] qyron@sopuli.xyz -1 points 1 month ago

I already addressed that issue on another reply and I manage to disagree and agree with your position.

[–] qyron@sopuli.xyz -1 points 1 month ago

It took me some time to order my thoughts on this. It would be easy to go for a knee jerk reaction but your reply deserves a proper answer.

Let's see if I can do what I want.

I'm going to start by repeating myself: ignorance is dangerous.

You made me remember an article I once read where it was denounced the practice of an insurance company of using clients zodiac signs to calculate risk. It ended in court and ridicule, obviously. Or thankfully.

I personally enjoy astrology. Strangely enough, it was what triggered me in my fascination for psychology. And if the historical context for what zodiacs/totems were originally for, which was to serve as a guide for an individual's life and moral decisions, is taken into account, then those symbols acted as such: symbols, archetypes, with good and bad traits or inclinations, to which the individual under its influence/guidance could tap or should avoid in order to make the best path they could build in life.

Balance. The choice is on the individual.

The way astrology, religion, pseudo science, science denial, etc, becomes dangerous, in my understanding, comes from the moment an individual chooses to relinquish their personal agency to instead allow something they do not understand decide over their lifes - and of others, by extension - unquestioned and unreasoned upon.

It is extremely hard to take up the sole responsibility of the outcome of one's decisions. Religion offers that escape through the means we are painfully aware. And because making a religion out of anything is easy, it is easy to find a escape for one's personal responsability.

I can't imagine what decisions Reagan took under astrology guidance; just the notion is ridiculous enough make me smile. He should have been laughed out of office, for that alone. But considering a country has the representatives it chooses, the US got what they chose.

Like I always say: be free to believe whatever you want, just keep it to yourself.

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