spooky2092

How about calling it genocide vs even-more-genocide? Does that make the distinction any clearer between the choices that were available? Whether we like it or not (and I'm 100% in the latter group) 'no genocide' was not on the menu

Don't get me wrong, I'm disgusted by the state of politics in this country, and would not have voted for Kamala had there been any other person on the ballot that had a realistic choice of winning. But the choice was what we had, and we knew the outcome was going to be bad but workable or fucking awful naked fascism. And so many people chose fucking awful naked fascism in the face of not being able to hold up their moral purity, and now make arguments like she would have done all the awful shit that trump was telling us he was going to do.

That's why I said what I said. And if you actually read the article I linked above instead of taking what the other user cherry picked out, you'll see that even the staffer who left because of Gaza said we should have voted for her for basically the reason of what we're seeing happen.

Really fucking rich accusing me of not reading the article when you stopped reading as soon as your opinion was validated.

From the article, since you didn't bother to read to the end:

The painful reality is that the movement for Palestinian rights has not acquired the political power necessary to stop the genocide that we have all watched unfold over the last year. And ultimately, it is progressive movements - not Harris and the Democrats - who will suffer the most under a second Trump term. We cannot abdicate our power within the Democratic Party, limited as it may be, for the sake of trying to punish the party's leadership. We must block Trump and the fascist right, while at the same time demanding change from our leaders, continuing to agitate for an arms embargo with every resource we have.

And yeah, I 100% agree with the author. Her position is and remains mine. If you'd bother to read the whole article, you'd see that she's telling you not to take the path you did.

This is why I said what I said, and chose not to respond to anything else.

Trump took a shit on your face and Gaza suffers more now, with zero hope whatsoever for any pushback from this fascist administration who applauds Israel's every step

100%

It amazes me how far morons will go to justify tacitly supporting naked fascism for purity politics and their own moral purity in the face of the immoral outcomes of their choices.

Here's one of her staffers explaining the difference, since the difference is so fucking hard for certain people to comprehend. It wasn't going to be fantastic, but I stand by my statement that only absolute fucking morons think they would have been the same. Because those people can't understand there are shades of awful or the difference between bad, and fucking gone.

That mentality is the textbook definition of cutting your nose off to spite your face. Voting for Kamala was attempting stem the bleeding, and people decided to cut a limb off instead. It's a shame that so many more people are going to suffer for their choice. And I really hope the naked fascism that these people directly contributed to via tacit support (thanks non voters!) isn't as bad as it will be, all because they wanted to play purity politics.

What do you mean, Kamala would have done the same thing!

• absolute fucking morons

I think you've got it backwards. Like the other person said, this shit was built to make money, the power and control came later. Said power and control also came partially from the money, since money is just power coupons, and they used that to buy up competitors and regulators alike to get to the state their in now.

Not everything is built with evil intentions. Quite frequently, evil corrupts otherwise benign institutions as they gain power to serve the ends of those already in power.

Not quite sure exactly what that slots into, tampering with evidence, obstruction of justice, not complying with the discovery process.

Pretty sure that's a hat trick

When are they going to start the peace negotiation efforts before they stop them? Cuz all they're doing is trying to conquer them and steal their resources currently.

Was he one of those Brooks brothers from the riot?

The truck shorts out in the rain and catches fire instead of leaving the flaming tracks

I'll one up them, make it one of those shitty NFT monkey cartoons

Why the fuck is VP Bowman ranting about the war his ol' bush started? Is he trying to fuck the memory of what happened, like the couch no one wants to use in the oval office?