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Democrats will allow full ICE funding in budget bill (www.wsws.org)

submitted 3 days ago by sin_free_for_00_days@sopuli.xyz to c/progressivepolitics@lemmy.world

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The American Prospect reported that several Democrats in closely contested districts would be voting for the ICE appropriation. “They’re terrified of being labeled anti–law enforcement,” an unnamed source told the liberal magazine. “They want this to go away so they can talk about the cost of living more. Problem is, it’s not going away.”

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[+] protist@mander.xyz -17 points 3 days ago (5 children)

Of note, it doesn't matter at all what any Democrats in the House do with this vote, because Republicans hold the majority and are going to pass it regardless

[–] Zaktor@sopuli.xyz 37 points 3 days ago (2 children)

The vote was 220 to 207, with 7 Democrats voting for it. If they voted against it would have been 213-214.

Soooo, yeah, it fucking mattered.

[–] ReallyActuallyFrankenstein@lemmynsfw.com 9 points 3 days ago

Ugh...

From another article: https://time.com/7357264/ice-funding-bill-dhs-congress/

Sen. Patty Murray of Washington, the top Democrat on the Senate Appropriations Committee, echoed that argument, warning that denying funding altogether could worsen the situation by handing Trump greater discretion through a stopgap funding law. “The hard truth,” she said, “is that Democrats must win political power to enact the kind of accountability we need.”

Democrat politicians always think they need to win before they inspire, forgetting that they need to inspire before they win. It's so so dumb. Take a stand for your voters and for what's right, you idiots.

I know most voted against it. I blame these seven, and Jefferies. What a disappointment he's been.

[–] ano_ba_to@sopuli.xyz -1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Only 7? You would've thought all of them voted for it based on the generalizations from this sub. This will certainly convince centrists to take your point of view.

[–] Zaktor@sopuli.xyz 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I'm not even sure what you're trying to say. Your beef is unclear and your argument muddled.

[–] ano_ba_to@sopuli.xyz 0 points 1 day ago

You guys are not good listeners, and not persuasive.

[–] jontree255@lemmy.world 27 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Yeah so none of them even had to vote for it. There was no downside to voting no. You could claim moral high ground and point to Rs as responsible for ICE. Anyone who voted in favor is complicit and Hakeem Jeffries is complicit for not even whipping the party to vote no across the board.

[–] EndlessNightmare@reddthat.com 13 points 3 days ago

Yup, this makes it actually much worse

[–] apfelwoiSchoppen@lemmy.world 10 points 3 days ago

Sounds like complicity.

[–] lobut@lemmy.ca 7 points 3 days ago (1 children)

I mean, even if this failed they had enough money from the last 70 billion to fund ICE regardless.

However, they should have stood up to this regardless. I don't understand what their logic is. They just didn't want to deal with shitty PR I guess.

[–] Krauerking@lemy.lol 5 points 2 days ago

They aren't any action and only PR. Thats all their jobs and their siblings they hire as consultants.

Of course they only care about that. Its the only metric they measure "how happy the wealthy are"

[–] Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world 5 points 2 days ago

centrists are consistent in their support for the worst excesses of dictators, both abroad and domestically.