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[–] alvvayson@lemmy.dbzer0.com 32 points 1 week ago (31 children)

Yes, there has been. Neonazi propaganda is bad, but so is Zionist propaganda

The transatlantic slave trade put 12 million people on ships from Africa to the Americas. 2 million died and 10 million lived awful lives no better than that of the Jews in concentration camps.

Once you add their descendents (we don't know the total number) we have 10s to 100s of millions of people living in work camps for 20 generations spanning 350 years.

Never has there been any compensation paid to descendants of slavery. Even today, there is still compensation paid to descendants of Holocaust victims, and the time difference between the end of slavery and the Holocaust is less than that between the Holocaust and today.

And it's not just this one. Germany more or less ignores the genocide it committed in Namibia.

Even when it comes to WW2, the focus is always on the 6 million Jews and not the 20 million Slavs. Even though Slavs are a more homogeneous ethnic group than Jews. It was just inconvenient during the cold war to see the USSR and its citizens as a victim worthy of compensation.

And then finally, this live streamed genocide in Gaza. Which in some respects is worse than the Holocaust, even if the absolute number is lower.

My grandparents were resistance fighters in WW2. They knew Jews were being picked up and sent to camps, and they saved a few from that fate, but they didn't know the truth about Auschwitz until after the war. The images were not publicly available in occupied Europe. They were shocked. And the same is true for most Germans. The Nazi's never had popular democratic support for the war and genocide.

But in Gaza, we can all see it. It is being denied, while being live streamed. The Israeli's, Americans and the Germans can see the starving kids in Gaza and still provide popular democratic support to its continuation.

The Germans of WW2 never reached that level of moral depravity, only a few Nazi's did.

[–] torrentialgrain@lemm.ee 5 points 1 week ago (6 children)

Holocaust is not just another word for genocide. It describes the systematic, industrialized killing of an entire ethnicity. Like modern industrial-capitalist logistic chains, the nazis optimized the KZs and their Hinterland for the maximum efficiency in killing Jews.

There has not been something like this in the entire history of humanity. Please educate yourself. I say that without judging you. I’m aware that there have been many other genocides, each one more terrible than one could put in words. And yes, Israel is committing on in Gaza right now, but that doesn’t diminish the enormous suffering of the Jewish people in the last century.

If what the Israeli government and army are doing right now makes you go "Well maybe the Holocaust wasn’t sooo bad, all things considered" then you have some real soul searching to do. Stop consuming propaganda.

[–] alvvayson@lemmy.dbzer0.com -1 points 6 days ago (5 children)

Dude, I never said the Holocaust ain't bad.

You're just a racist projecting your beliefs on others

[–] torrentialgrain@lemm.ee 0 points 6 days ago (1 children)

You have some serious problems with reading comprehension.

[–] alvvayson@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 5 days ago (1 children)

And you're a Nazi, just against brown people instead of Jews.

Same shit, different victims.

[–] torrentialgrain@lemm.ee 0 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (1 children)

You’ve been thoroughly beaten in argument and now you resort to low effort trolling. Take some time to reflect on yourself. What you are doing here is not normal and not healthy.

Good luck, I hope you get better.

[–] alvvayson@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 5 days ago (1 children)

I haven't been beaten in an argument.

You are trying to lecture people on a historical genocide while whitewashing and denying a genocide that is happening before our very eyes.

That is truly sickening and not healthy. And it actually hurts people who are now dying and starving.

[–] torrentialgrain@lemm.ee 1 points 5 days ago

I said word for word that Israel is guilty of a genocide.

Seek help, good luck.

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