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[–] MudMan@fedia.io 415 points 1 week ago (55 children)

I am surpringly annoyed about Americans somehow finding a way to make this about themselves.

In reality I'm much more worried about the likely counterreformist pushback that is likely about to happen. We're about to find out if a remarkably powerful organization's leader was able to seed enough support to secure a politically aligned successor, and if the answer is "no" a bunch of organizations are about to get even more ruthlessly conservative at a time when a new strain of fascism is seeking moral support. The Catholic Church has been here before. It didn't go well.

[–] venusaur@lemmy.world 25 points 1 week ago (16 children)

It sure feels like the tides are turning conservative everywhere, but apparently a Filipino progressive is a favorite to be next

[–] Microw@lemm.ee 10 points 1 week ago (4 children)

There is a roman saying, "the one who enters conclave as the pope [to be] leaves it as a mere cardinal"

[–] CmdrShepard42@lemm.ee 7 points 1 week ago (1 children)

There's an old saying in Tennessee — I know it's in Texas, probably in Tennessee — that says, fool me once, shame on — shame on you. Fool me — you can't get fooled again.

[–] anzo@programming.dev -1 points 1 week ago (2 children)

I can't read this. The saying I know is probably Roman: "Fool me once, shame on you. Fool me twice, shame on me".

[–] catloaf@lemm.ee 3 points 1 week ago

https://www.goodreads.com/quotes/6436-there-s-an-old-saying-in-tennessee-i-know-it-s

As dumb as Bush was, he was smart enough to not say "shame on me" on camera.

[–] boomzilla@programming.dev 2 points 1 week ago (1 children)

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bushism

You can find the original quote in the examples section.

[–] anzo@programming.dev 2 points 1 week ago

Ah, I didn't knew there was a president in America that made the mistake of paraphrasing it like that. Shame on americans that keep bein' fooled in that fake democracy :P

[–] barneypiccolo@lemm.ee 3 points 1 week ago

I'm not Catholic, and i don't follow this stuff closely, but I've seen a LOT of popes come and go, and as far as I remember, the chosen pope has NEVER been the early favorite. Anybody whose name is being knocked around right now is unlikely to be the final choice, recently-historically speaking.

[–] venusaur@lemmy.world 2 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Bummer. Then I guess it’ll be another Italian.

[–] sudneo@lemm.ee 2 points 1 week ago

A very old one indeed. It's never certain how conclaves will go.

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