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  • Volkswagen beat Tesla in European EV sales across the first three months of 2025, data shows.
  • Registrations for VW EVs are up more than 150%, while Tesla lost huge ground.
  • However, the Model Y and Model 3 remain Europe's top two most-registered EVs.
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[–] Buffalox@lemmy.world 19 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (10 children)

Tesla was the top EV seller in Europe? I’m surprised.

Not only that, A few years ago, Tesla was as big as all the rest combined!

I’m guessing the top electric-only vehicle excluding hybrids and plug-in hybrids?

That's how it should be, but in most cases it's not. 100% battery is called BEV now. But BEV sales have far surpassed plugin Hybrid (PHEV).

IMO a Hybrid plugin or not is NOT electric just as it is NOT an ICE, it's a hybrid of the 2! But Hybrids are generally counted as EV.

[–] MudMan@fedia.io 1 points 4 days ago (9 children)

Huh. And even with that Tesla was dominating the space? That's a shocker.

Besides telling me that every other manufacturer was massively screwing up the big thing that would seem to indicate is that penetration was extremely uneven. I came into the thread wanting to see a chart, I'm coming out of it wanting to see a map.

[–] Buffalox@lemmy.world 5 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (8 children)

Tesla had a HUGE lead when they started to sell the model S in 2012, and many places there were significant tax incentives to buy one. Back then every competitor to Tesla had really poor range, and they were generally very small city cars. The Tesla model S was a giant leap forward for electric cars (BEV).
The hybrids were never very popular, it was basically a misstep by traditional makers, probably an attempt to leverage their know how on making ICE cars, and use that to make a "semi electric". The popularity they achieved was probably mostly because many places they enjoyed similar tax incentives to "real" electric cars (BEV).
Now many brands have caught up with Tesla and a popular in Europe, like Hyundai/KIA, VW group, BMW, Mercedes, Stelantis, Renault, Volvo, Polestar, and even Chinese cars like BYD, Xpeng and MG.

So there is lots of competition today, but IMO the first good alternative for a reasonable price here was the Hyundai Kona. I think it's only about 5 years ago the other makers began to catch up to Tesla.
And now they are beginning to surpass Tesla in different ways. This was made easier by Tesla because they have failed to develop to improve their cars. Tesla model Y is 5 years old now, and they only came out with a facelift version this year!
For comparison European makers have a development cycle of 3 years, and China is extremely fast with 1-2 years!

[–] Wanderer@lemm.ee 1 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

I found your post interesting found another community from you.

Just wondered if you ever post on energy@slrpnk.net with batteries being so integral to cars and energy seems like a good overlap and would like to see more in depth comments on energy.

[–] Buffalox@lemmy.world 1 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Thanks, but it looks like some sort of mail list, I don't use that.

[–] Wanderer@lemm.ee 2 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

Thats weird.

Turns out I have no idea how to link to communities. Maybe if I link to a post in that community you can see what I mean.

I'm on lemm.ee so I guess thats why that link comes up. But when I click on the community the previous link I sent is written at the top.

https://lemm.ee/post/62031137

[–] Buffalox@lemmy.world 2 points 2 days ago

Thanks, I've had problems with that too. But I found it now searching communities, and have subscribed. 😀

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