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The old slogan in Norway is that women's struggle is class struggle. It doesn't translate well, but the sentiment certainly applies to the US. Entitled shitstains like Trump and Kavanaugh have raped and molested their way into positions of power since the beginning of civilization, always enabled by the silence, cowardliness, and collaboration of the men around them. Men need to break the silence and riot against this broken fucking culture not only for the sake of women, but also to avoid being ruled by a class of rapist psychos until the end of days.
I feel like feminism went out of fashion lately. Hopefully this will serve as a wake-up call to get people back on track. We're fucking lost without it.
I'm curious about what you mean by "it doesn't translate well".
Like, it rhymes in Norwegian? Or the complete meaning doesn't come across?
I like the slogan even if it doesn't quite translate the way you mean.
Thanks for sharing that, I'm going to use it.
In Norway we'd say "kvinnekamp er klassekamp". It's a bit catchier, but more importantly "kvinnekamp" is a more established term than "women's struggle", so I wasn't sure how well it would translate. If it sounds good to native speakers that's of course great!
So what you're saying it's like the idiom "trans rights are human rights" but "women's rights are class rights"? I'm sure people can work with that.
The logic of the slogan is the same for sure. However, I find the word kamp to be important: Rights are something you have or you don't. Emphasizing rights is great and all, but you risk making people believe they only need to support rights rather than to fight for them.
The central point of Marx is that "the history of all hitherto existing society is the history of class struggles". In Norwegian socialism the core instinct is to join the class struggle, to strike, protest, and fight the capital in any way possible in order to create better conditions not for yourself, but for those fighting at your side.
Unlike "kamp" I don't find "struggle" to be a particularly powerful word, but I think it's important to use it. This is about a lot more than protecting the rights of women or to grant new ones; it's about fixing a gigantic gaping hole in our culture. It is a struggle, and it will continue to be until the end of history.
"Kamp" is more akin to "battle" than "struggle" in energy. I would translate "kvinnekamp" as "fighting for women", but you can't really translate "klassekamp" in the same way, so you lose symmetry.
The best I can come up with on the spot is "Fighting for women is a class fight".
Yeah, this is why I find that it doesn't translate so well. The German Klassenkampf is typically translated as class struggle though, so those familiar with Marxism in English will recognize the term, flawed as it is.
It's fascinating how interconnected ideas and language is.
I really should learn Norwegian. As a German I know half your words anyway. Why am I trying to learn Italian? It's way too hot there!
“Slut” means “end” in a lot of nordic languages, so…
Irrelevant here - see the rest of the thread for detailed discussion.
I don't know if two qualifies as "a lot", but I guess it is a significant proportion of Scandinavian languages.
Isn't it the case in Danish, Norwegian, and Swedish?
Norwegian spells it "slutt", so not quite.